Hattons Prime - The myth

[erics44]

out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?

[THE THIRD MAN]

I have no doubt that Hatton's prime moment was the Tszyu fight, he had it all to win and he did, but while people were hyperventilating over the result they forgot one important aspect that came out of that fight. Hatton also took a pounding and i don't think he was ever the same again, he fought and beat some good fighters including an old Castillo, but gone was the aura of invincibilty that Hatton had when he went into the ring against an ageing, inactive, injury ridden Tszyu. It took a lot out of Ricky Hatton and he did himself no favours by ballooning up in weight inbetween fights. Hatton's prime was June 2005, he was on the slide after that and went off the rails meeting Mayweather and the Pacman. The fact that he was done at age 30 says something.

[monzon]

I was/am a huge Hatton fan, but at no point in his career did he have the skills to beat Manny or Floyd.

[imp]

If hatton would have beat mayweather that would be the pinnicle of his career!
Anything after the mayweather fight was just paychecks.
And thats the same for all mayweathers opponents..

[ICB]

Ok so im looking at this thread titled "Pac vs Hatton 140 Prime who wins" or what ever its called and I see people claiming this fight DIDNT happen already.

After beating Kostya Tszyu he was called the best in the division and unbeatable due to his relentless pressure fighting style. Lets look at his fights after that. But at this point we can all agree the Tszyu fight showed he was in his prime.

Carlos Maussa - He beat Vivian Harris (terrible champion) and got a pay day against Hatton. If I remember correctly Maussa put up a little bit of a fight but mostly one way traffic for Hatton.

Luiz Collazo -Collazo goes down in the first round and wasnt looking good for him. Collazo starts boxing Ricky ears off and loses a close decision. Collazo is a solid boxer and gave Ricky a hell of a fight plus Ricky was stepping up in weight. I think Ricky lost that fight but the record books says otherwise so he gets the win.

Juan Urango - A one dimension brawler who Hatton out boxed clearly. Urango really isnt an elite boxer.

Castillo - Castillo was above his normal weight due to being unable to make 135 comfortably and was just too small to even have a shot against Hatton.

Mayweather - Got soundly beaten by Mayweather and tkoed. Didnt take heaps of damage in this fight but got caught with a monster check hook and that was the end.


NOW...everyone says Rickys prime was before the mayweather fight. A 3 yr prime....2004 - 2007 ....please one loss and your not the fighter you once were? Fair enough if it was a gruelling 10 round knockout loss but it was one big shot and it didnt even knock Hatton out cold. Hatton had been dropped before but this time he was in with a world class opponent.

Face facts - Ricky beat Kostya Tszyu. You can say style made that fight or dodgy reffing made that fight or whatever....on paper Ricky won that fight so this thread isnt about Tszyu vs Hatton so dont make this a 'Snakey let go thread or stop being bitter thread'. Ricky beat one REALLY good opponent then followed up with some decent performances against decent competition (wouldnt call Maussa or a blown up Castillo that decent but what ever) but got beat against the no 1 p4p champ. BUT none of those fights are enough to say 'that was so gruelling it took rickys prime'. The fact is Ricky was still in his prime in ALL of those fights including the Pac fight, he just fought better competition then he had been fighting in England all of the yrs before the Tszyu fight hence why he didnt look so dominant.


Bottom line - Hatton was in his prime in the Pac fight and he got sparked, deal with it. Anyone who wants to say Hatton beat Tszyu so Snakey deal with that...read the above I have dealt with it and now its Hattons fans turn.

Not really gonna go into the topic but i keep hearing this Collazo/Hatton, debate coming up alot. To try and discredit Ricky Hatton, it was Ricky Hatton's 1st fight at 147. And he did do enough to win a close decision, in a similar way Andre Berto did. Because Luis Collazo didn't fight often enough simple as.

But Luis Collazo is/was a solid fighter, and is a Southpaw. There's no shame in struggling with Luis Collazo, who can give most fighters problems on his best night, he had broken hand vs Shane Mosley and that's only real fight he's been beaten in, except an earlier loss in his career.

[Snakey]

Ok so im looking at this thread titled "Pac vs Hatton 140 Prime who wins" or what ever its called and I see people claiming this fight DIDNT happen already.

After beating Kostya Tszyu he was called the best in the division and unbeatable due to his relentless pressure fighting style. Lets look at his fights after that. But at this point we can all agree the Tszyu fight showed he was in his prime.

Carlos Maussa - He beat Vivian Harris (terrible champion) and got a pay day against Hatton. If I remember correctly Maussa put up a little bit of a fight but mostly one way traffic for Hatton.

Luiz Collazo -Collazo goes down in the first round and wasnt looking good for him. Collazo starts boxing Ricky ears off and loses a close decision. Collazo is a solid boxer and gave Ricky a hell of a fight plus Ricky was stepping up in weight. I think Ricky lost that fight but the record books says otherwise so he gets the win.

Juan Urango - A one dimension brawler who Hatton out boxed clearly. Urango really isnt an elite boxer.

Castillo - Castillo was above his normal weight due to being unable to make 135 comfortably and was just too small to even have a shot against Hatton.

Mayweather - Got soundly beaten by Mayweather and tkoed. Didnt take heaps of damage in this fight but got caught with a monster check hook and that was the end.


NOW...everyone says Rickys prime was before the mayweather fight. A 3 yr prime....2004 - 2007 ....please one loss and your not the fighter you once were? Fair enough if it was a gruelling 10 round knockout loss but it was one big shot and it didnt even knock Hatton out cold. Hatton had been dropped before but this time he was in with a world class opponent.

Face facts - Ricky beat Kostya Tszyu. You can say style made that fight or dodgy reffing made that fight or whatever....on paper Ricky won that fight so this thread isnt about Tszyu vs Hatton so dont make this a 'Snakey let go thread or stop being bitter thread'. Ricky beat one REALLY good opponent then followed up with some decent performances against decent competition (wouldnt call Maussa or a blown up Castillo that decent but what ever) but got beat against the no 1 p4p champ. BUT none of those fights are enough to say 'that was so gruelling it took rickys prime'. The fact is Ricky was still in his prime in ALL of those fights including the Pac fight, he just fought better competition then he had been fighting in England all of the yrs before the Tszyu fight hence why he didnt look so dominant.


Bottom line - Hatton was in his prime in the Pac fight and he got sparked, deal with it. Anyone who wants to say Hatton beat Tszyu so Snakey deal with that...read the above I have dealt with it and now its Hattons fans turn.

Not really gonna go into the topic but i keep hearing this Collazo/Hatton, debate coming up alot. To try and discredit Ricky Hatton, it was Ricky Hatton's 1st fight at 147. And he did do enough to win a close decision, in a similar way Andre Berto did. Because Luis Collazo didn't fight often enough simple as.

But Luis Collazo is/was a solid fighter, and is a Southpaw. There's no shame in struggling with Luis Collazo, who can give most fighters problems on his best night, he had broken hand vs Shane Mosley and that's only real fight he's been beaten in, except an earlier loss in his career.

But im not discrediting Hatton by stating he won a close decision against Collazo. I stated Collazo was a solid boxer. All im saying is that this fight was a step up compared to the competition he had been facing in England all those years.