Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

[outspoken]

J.M Marquez based on what he has accomplished and the competition he's fought. Finito Lopez Notable second.

[ElTerribleMorales]

J.M Marquez based on what he has accomplished and the competition he's fought. Finito Lopez Notable second.

I agree to a certain point cause I go back and forth in my own head, in terms of titles and opponents than yes it's Marquez, but in terms of sheer skill and ability IMO Lopez was the more talented of the two, he made it look easy, effortless, the man was a genius

[Spicoli]

Marquez especially early on in career is easily one of the best technicians I've ever seen from beginning to near end, he could be from Mars or Pluto and it would apply. Chavez with respect was not a 'brawler'. I'm no fan really but dude was a master at punch placement and combo technique. He gets slept on at light where he was a pretty sharp boxer.

Depends on what your looking for. Mexican fighters are stereotyped big time. Even Barrera went from straight comer but transformed in later years to very crafty all around boxer. One guy for me was Humberto Gonzalez. Pretty sure he was born south of the boarder. He was a devastating puncher with his ko losses all coming in near same dramatic fashion, but he was a sound boxer too. How he turned total boxer with blood streaming down his face to beat rival Carbajal not once, but twice still blows me away. Ok 2nd was debatable but what a transition in game plan. If your going pure defensive wiz how about a Miguel Canto! A rarity who made the ring his own dance stage. Ricardo Lopez right up there. Has to go down as one of the best thinkers and explosive combination hitters there was. Foot placement was amazing!

[GAME]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

[ElTerribleMorales]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

[GAME]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that

[Comegalletas]

Ricardo Lopez is definitely the most talented technician I have seen. Unfortunately the opposition level at strawweight was low. But the way he manhandled most of his opponents is awesome.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that

wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days

[GAME]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that

wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days

Another question I have for Morales is " How did it feel to get in there with David Diaz and come out a loser "

[ElTerribleMorales]

Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.

obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that

wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days

Another question I have for Morales is " How did it feel to get in there with David Diaz and come out a loser "

and his answer would be simple it would be something like this...



here's the dvd cover for Barrera's rematch against Pacquiao...

[GAME]

Another questions for "el quitter"

How did it feel to be outskilled by the most unskillful boxer in the world Marcos Maidana


" Nah, Its comfy down here "

[ElTerribleMorales]

Another questions for "el quitter"

How did it feel to be outskilled by the most unskillful boxer in the world Marcos Maidana


" Nah, Its comfy down here "

that same "unskilled" boxer took Amir Khan to the limit, unlike Barrera who basically got reemed in the ring

[fan johnny]

I would rate Morales and Barerra better than Marquez. Marquez can't handle the outside style and has to generate his offence off the aggression of his opponent. Ricardo Lopez is the Boxer your looking for if you want the greatest boxer. The greatest fighter obviously was Chavez. Marquez again Naz would have exposed him badly.

[Gandalf]

Anyone who takes Khan's win over Barrera seriously is a fucking retard. A disgusting fight in so many ways and for anyone to hold that fight against Barrera needs to jump in front of a bus.

I say Marquez is the best because of what he has done over the last 10 years. I believe he has beaten the so called P4P best in the world 3 times, though he was denied by officials each time.

[GAME]

Another questions for "el quitter"

How did it feel to be outskilled by the most unskillful boxer in the world Marcos Maidana


" Nah, Its comfy down here "

that same "unskilled" boxer took Amir Khan to the limit, unlike Barrera who basically got reemed in the ring

"Erik, How did it feel to be manhandled and bullied around by this guy?"