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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    The entire fight vs Fields


    You'll notice, wach moves well, but he pushes his punches all the time and his posture is odd, he fights in a slouch. He has very long arms and a very skinny frame. There's not much muscle there and I don't see him as a dynamic fighter. Wach seems to let his opponents dictate the pace of the fight, he is burning up lots of energy bouncing around like he does. Wach likes to move away from power, even that of Tye Fields. He puts himself in bad situations by moving into the ropes and having a hard time circling out. Fields' problem in that fight was he never moved his upper body, he didn't make Wach pay for his mistakes, and he was only looking for the 1 big punch....Wach will not have that luxury vs Wladimir who will make Wach pay with both hands. I want to see Wach take a flush shot from Wlad and see how he reacts to it...I'm betting it doesn't go well for him.

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    I've just seen pics of the press conference, Wlad looks pretty focused. I suspect Wlad may come in heavy, if he's over 245 he's going to make quick work of Wach

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    You seem to be doing a better job than hyping up this fight than the media as its really hard work to get people motivated for wlads fights, no matter how nice he comes across.

    I would rather see wlad fight tyson fury as that would be fun while it lasts to see sticky legs fury bringing drama to the press conferences.

    Obviously wlad has alot of emotional and mental issues to deal with in loosing manny but i have to say in all of his fights he comes in tremendous shape and that is the golden nugget that will see him get the decison.

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    Wach looks soooo clumsy in that video!
    Is this the best this world of ours is producing?
    i know he might be green but fcuk me, throw deontay wilder in there with wlad...hes his sparring partner and might get alittle success like lou del valle got when fighting roy jones.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    Interesting article from BoxingInsider.com - Boxing News - Boxing Results - Boxing News Leader.

    Can Mariusz Wach End The Klitschko Era of Dominance?

    by Johnny Walker

    When world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko enters the ring this Saturday in Hamburg, Germany, he’ll be trying to continue one of the most impressive win streaks in boxing history.

    Klitschko hasn’t lost in over eight years. Yes, you read that correctly: eight years. He last tasted defeat in a strange loss to Lamon Brewster in 2004.

    While his critics (most of them based in the United States and Britain) may try to detract from that accomplishment by claiming the heavyweight division has been “weak” during this period, that criticism has to be seen as mostly sour grapes from people who wouldn’t even mention the topic if Wlad were an American or a Brit. Many other champions also boxed in relatively weak eras, from Rocky Marciano to Larry Holmes, and Wladimir can only fight those available and willing to get in the ring with him.

    The fact is, Wladimir Klitschko (along with his equally superior older brother Vitali) is now one of the most dominant heavyweight champions in the history of boxing.

    This last fact means that many people now routinely discount the chances of Klitschko opponents, and while most often fighters avoid the Klitschkos and not the other way around, Wlad’s last two over-the-hill opponents–Jean Marc Mormeck and Tony Thompson–were indeed easy to dismiss before they ever stepped into the ring (the latter for the second time) with the champion. And they quickly lived down to those reduced expectations.

    A perusal of Internet boxing forums thus reveals a deep cynicism toward Klitschko’s next opponent, the undefeated Polish giant Mariusz “The Viking” Wach. The great majority of boxing fans seem to feel that Wach is no different from the Mormecks and the Thompsons, just another body there to make up the numbers on Wlad’s impressive run of wins.

    But at the risk of being proven disastrously wrong on Saturday, I beg to differ.

    Something feels different this time out. For one thing, Wach is not a spent veteran looking for one last payday like Wlad’s last two opponents. Wach has not yet lost a fight, and has never been put on the canvas. The giant Pole thus comes into this fight with a totally different mentality than the majority of Wladimir’s opponents during his win streak, the Rahmans, Mormecks and Thompsons of the boxing world.

    Wach is coming into the ring in Hamburg not to just get paid, but to WIN. And to win not only for himself, but for his country. The patriotic Wach badly wants to deliver the heavyweight title to the always dedicated Polish boxing fans, something that his countryman Tomasz Adamek was unable to do when he was humiliated in Wroclaw against Vitali Klitschko last year.

    To this end, Wach–who humorously described his former physique as akin to a “soft dumpling”–has gotten himself into fantastic shape for this fight. His sculpted body is now something more accurately compared to his always in-shape opponent than to a dumpling. And at a towering 6’8″ tall, Wach is the first opponent in the champion’s career that he will be looking up to in the ring.

    Physically, then, it is unlikely that Wach is going to be initially intimidated by Wladimir Klitschko.

    But boxing is as much mental as it is physical, perhaps more-so. And in that area, Klitschko, whether he wants to admit it or not, enters into this fight with a giant question mark hovering over his head. Namely, how will he handle a moment of extreme adversity in the ring without the man who rescued his career, without the man who believed in him even when his own brother was telling him to quit, in the corner to calm him down?

    The absence of the recently deceased boxing icon Emanuel Steward in the Klitschko corner this time in Hamburg definitely changes the equation here, and the Wach camp knows it. Wach will look to try and rattle the champion early to see how he responds. After eight years of wins, it’s easy to forget the mental fragility that Wladimir sometimes displayed before Steward carefully reshaped his psyche. Will Steward’s absence spur the champion on, or will it cause him to revert to past behavior and start panicking when Wach lands something of significance?

    Wach himself is evincing an attitude of steely determination in the lead-up to this fight: he reacted coolly when the champion uncharacteristically engaged in a lengthy, menacing stare-down in the final presser for the fight. So far, it is Wladimir who seems to be outside of his comfort zone, perhaps acting over-amped because he knows he has something to prove this time without Steward at his side. This extra level of aggression could play out in a negative manner in the ring if it leads to Klitschko abandoning the methodical and controlled style that worked so well for him under Steward.

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    If Wlad comes out guns a blazin' like he did way back vs Ray Mercer then Wach won't last 2 rounds. Wlad is so good right now he could fight that way and really only get trouble from Arreola(chin) and Haye (speed & power). It might be good to see Wlad get aggressive vs Wach.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    If Wlad comes out guns a blazin' like he did way back vs Ray Mercer then Wach won't last 2 rounds. Wlad is so good right now he could fight that way and really only get trouble from Arreola(chin) and Haye (speed & power). It might be good to see Wlad get aggressive vs Wach.
    I'm not sure if your making a better case of Wlads known superiority or the fact that as far as class and merit a Wach has no business fighting for a title in the first place Just breaking balls bud, but seriously...I've seen better mobility from a house being moved on a flat bed truck. I think he'll pick him to pieces if its in his mental make up that night. Nothing to gain, everything to lose from here. Rinse and repeat

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    Wach's trainer has lost his fucking mind...I suggest everyone watch his interview on fightnews.com it is ridiculous.

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    That's the interview I was talking about, it's ridiculous really.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    I could only listen to about a minute of De Leon's blither.

    I figure Wlad will punish Wach - jab x 15 - then a left hook or a big right hand, then repeat, for 7 or 8 rounds before lowering the boom on the bruised, battered, and bewildered polish bigfoot in the 9th round.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    Wlad has chosen Johnathan Banks for his trainer.

    It is an unusual choice but as long as Wlad is happy and it continues the Steward legacy in some form then good luck to him.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    This fight is on ESPN 10pm Saturday.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Wlad has chosen Johnathan Banks for his trainer.

    It is an unusual choice but as long as Wlad is happy and it continues the Steward legacy in some form then good luck to him.
    Wlad has known Banks for quite a while also Vitali and James Ali Bashir will be in his corner and Stitch Duran as well so I think they should be ok although everyone will miss Manny's presence.

    JAMES ALI BASHIR: "WLADIMIR IS IN SUPERB SHAPE…HE'S GOING TO STOP WACH EARLY" || FIGHTHYPE

    JAB brings up a good point, Wlad did lose his father recently and that did not seem to affect his performance in the ring, the only worry I have with Wlad is that he tries too hard for the early KO and leaves himself open, but as smart as he is I believe everything JAB says. (JAB = James Ali Bashir just so you know)

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs Maruisz Wach Nov. 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    This fight is on ESPN 10pm Saturday.
    That means the card will start @ somewhere around 5:00 PM ET here in the States.

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