How would you rate Ward's resume?

[Beanflicker]

Very good. He's beaten all the names you'd need him to beat at his weight class.

Now he needs to find that challenge that's going to further propel his career

[Gandalf]

Outstanding record. You're always going to get plums like Miles who want to belittle what people have achieved but his record speaks for itself.

If there was a single champion that Ward was yet to topple everyone would be pissing their pants at how amazing he's been in getting there and in so few fights. As it is he's pretty much beaten everyone so it starts to work against him and all that's left to do is slag him off.

There are fighters that Ward should be fighting now. Instead all he wants are tune up fights. Ward had the easiest time in the super six and fought limited fighters. Froch has shown how to beat Kessler fairly, but Ward simply butted him into submission. Ward beat Froch, but Froch can do a lot better than he did.

I really don't see the big deal with Andre Ward and once he steps up to LHW, there are plenty of names, and several with a fair shot of beating him. Kovalev would likely bounce his chin all over the canvas.

[imp]

I would like to see ward on one of those 24/7 specials or something.

[Master]

I would like to see ward on one of those 24/7 specials or something.

I do not think he is exciting enough to carry one of those off.

[Memphis]

I would like to see ward on one of those 24/7 specials or something.

I do not think he is exciting enough to carry one of those off.

I agree but there is the possibility that he'll use up all of boxing's allotted god shout outs and no one will be able to do it again, ever.

[imp]

I would like to see ward on one of those 24/7 specials or something.

I do not think he is exciting enough to carry one of those off.

I agree but there is the possibility that he'll use up all of boxing's allotted god shout outs and no one will be able to do it again, ever.

Yeah, hes not exciting but he still is a nice guy and perhaps that might even make him more appealing.

Worth a go.

[Rantcatrat]

It is very good. It merits his p4p mention. I would caution that to consider it great one necessarily rates Froch and Kessler highly, as they are his two most significant wins.

Froch's resume arguably is close to as good as Ward's, but he'll always be a step behind in ranking because he lost to Ward and he lost to Kessler in their first fight. However, Froch has wins over Pascal, Bute, Andre Dirrell, and Kessler too, the first three of which Ward doesn't have. I know some people thought Froch lost to Dirrell, but at least Froch fought Dirrell. We don't know what would have happened had Dirrell fought Ward.

Where does Ward go now? There doesn't appear to be anyone else at super middleweight for him to face. There are a bunch of contenders at 175 in Stevenson, Kovalev, Hopkins (GB), and the Pascal/Bute winner, but if he doesn't need to step up in weight, should he do so and take the additional risk?

GGG is a potential future foe, but GGG has a stacked division to take care of first. I'm not sure why he would jump up to face Ward now, when he could take on the other top guys at middleweight first.

[Dia bando]

Ward is a very good fighter, but his style of boxing will never give him a large fan base,
ever one he's faced he has beaten them, he has a first class resume.

[p4pking]

It is very good. It merits his p4p mention. I would caution that to consider it great one necessarily rates Froch and Kessler highly, as they are his two most significant wins.

Froch's resume arguably is close to as good as Ward's, but he'll always be a step behind in ranking because he lost to Ward and he lost to Kessler in their first fight. However, Froch has wins over Pascal, Bute, Andre Dirrell, and Kessler too, the first three of which Ward doesn't have. I know some people thought Froch lost to Dirrell, but at least Froch fought Dirrell. We don't know what would have happened had Dirrell fought Ward.

Where does Ward go now? There doesn't appear to be anyone else at super middleweight for him to face. There are a bunch of contenders at 175 in Stevenson, Kovalev, Hopkins (GB), and the Pascal/Bute winner, but if he doesn't need to step up in weight, should he do so and take the additional risk?

GGG is a potential future foe, but GGG has a stacked division to take care of first. I'm not sure why he would jump up to face Ward now, when he could take on the other top guys at middleweight first.

Dirrell is a basket case, who says he wanted to fight Ward at any point? It would have happened if the super six had panned out differently, and I'd agree that's a hard style for Ward but he's so much tougher upstairs. Bute for all we know was fairly content being fed mid level guys in his backyard until the Froch beatdown, you don't think Ward would've taken that fight instead? He's in a bad spot because guys he beats are still worth a lot more money than he is, it's hardly a knock on his resume surely.

[imp]

Look how long JC stayed at supermiddleweight.

There should be no pressure for ward to move up in weight if there is still money in a froch rematch.

Any weight ward moves into is a problem for everyone else.

[imp]

I like froch.

But the smart move as Rant says is to bide his time and leave ward until last..the money he can make elsewhere will finish off his career and he can then step up to light heavy for his last couple of fights.

Ward has achieved so much in a short time frame,

One of the best at 168 of all time.