The "How to beat Floyd Mayweather" thread...

[FinitoElDinamita]

Nobody in this era has what it takes to beat Floyd. We need a Leonard, Duran, Chavez, Pea, or a Calzaghe type but there aint none..

If Khan had good punch resistance, Id give him a good chance..

[imp]

If khan had great punch resistance he would be unbeaten.

Floyd needs to surprise everyone and call out out ward...knowing it wont happen but sounds good.

[Silkeyjoe]

What about Lara? Good speed, decent defence, awkward style, reasonable power?

It's a shame Rigo ain't a bigger guy, that would be one for the boxing purist

[bradlee180]

Whoops, I forgot about the late Vernon Forrest.
He was another elite guy at 147 that would've been very difficult for Floyd.

Even that nutbar the late Edwin Valero. Pretty wild lookin' in the ring, but that kind of guy would've been a nightmare for Floyd.

[IamInuit]

I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.

I've always thought that with Khan its more the when he gets plugged then having a below par chin. The only other guy in the weight area that I have seen step straight back like he does is his countrymen Kell Brook. Not only does Khan pull straight back but he does it like a post standing completely upright, lead hand down with his chin in the air testing the wind speed.

I've never watched Khan fight, but isn't Freddie Roach his coach? would've Roach have corrected that already?

You would think so but he couldn't stop Manny from darting in and out and getting caught with Juans right hand in 4 fights. I think there is a stage where certain mistakes almost become impossible to break. I think it might be something Khan did in the amateurs and got away with because he was so much more skilled then his opponents.Oddly enough Kell Brook does the exact same thing. Shane never stopped closing his eyes when he threw punches and even in the pocket. It 's probably why he was so easy to hit and yet he never changed.Its almost like the mistakes become subconscious. The more I worry about not moving my head when I tee off the more I move it. The worst thing that happens with that is I loose one of the balls I found earlier on the course. I'd wager that Khan gets stopped by Alexander via a left hook moving straight back. Having said all that lol I still feel that he has the abilities to give Mayweathers approach to fights fits.

[Stickgrappler]

IamInuit,

Ah, thanks... practice doesn't make pefect, "perfect practice makes perfect'... Khan had already ingrained bad habits into his 'muscle memory' and guess no matter what Freddie did, he couldn't correct it.

[Addicted to_boxing]

I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.

I've always thought that with Khan its more the when he gets plugged then having a below par chin. The only other guy in the weight area that I have seen step straight back like he does is his countrymen Kell Brook. Not only does Khan pull straight back but he does it like a post standing completely upright, lead hand down with his chin in the air testing the wind speed.

I've never watched Khan fight, but isn't Freddie Roach his coach? would've Roach have corrected that already?

You would think so but he couldn't stop Manny from darting in and out and getting caught with Juans right hand in 4 fights. I think there is a stage where certain mistakes almost become impossible to break. I think it might be something Khan did in the amateurs and got away with because he was so much more skilled then his opponents.Oddly enough Kell Brook does the exact same thing. Shane never stopped closing his eyes when he threw punches and even in the pocket. It 's probably why he was so easy to hit and yet he never changed.Its almost like the mistakes become subconscious. The more I worry about not moving my head when I tee off the more I move it. The worst thing that happens with that is I loose one of the balls I found earlier on the course. I'd wager that Khan gets stopped by Alexander via a left hook moving straight back. Having said all that lol I still feel that he has the abilities to give Mayweathers approach to fights fits.

Which fighter has Roach improved skill set "0" . Rode Pac's ass into fame / fortune and hall of fame. Roach is just not a very good trainer.

[ykdadamaja]

I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.

Judah was a slick Southpaw with an awesome straight left hand... Floyd can't shoulder roll off of his left shoulder AND defend his right side at the same time. How he beats you with the shoulder roll is when you give up on trying to throw left hooks and left hands... but it is an illusion. The straight left hand and the short left hook is right there for you.

That's how he got caught with a Mosely right hand in the 2nd round of their fight- all training camp he was preparing for Mosely's left hook, one of the better left hooks in the last 20 years of boxing and left himself open for the right hand.

Notice he recovered well after being tagged with the right hand and changed his defence to a more peakaboo style, with gloves held high- because he knew Mosely was a finisher of the highest pedigree and the only way to not get tagged with more rights and a killer left was to then switch from the shoulder roll, hug and hold a bit, and then give up the body and mid-section to clear the cobwebs and go on to lose the round for lack of activity and from points.

Floyd can't take a left hook or a straight left hand all night- even Judah had him looking for Judah's left hand before he got tagged with Judah's right.

That says something about Floyd, his attention to the right side of his body and/or jaw/equilibrium status on his right side. Could be an eye problem, could be an ear problem and he is disoriented and moves away from it, or it simply could be that one spot that he has to leave open to protect everywhere else with his impeccable defense.

Whatever it is, Floyd CLEARLY doesn't want to take shots to the right side of his face and head... no matter what they say about the peakaboo, the shoulder roll, or the waist-weave (see Pernell Whitaker) you have to leave something open. You just have to.

[SugarBoxing]

I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.

Judah was a slick Southpaw with an awesome straight left hand... Floyd can't shoulder roll off of his left shoulder AND defend his right side at the same time. How he beats you with the shoulder roll is when you give up on trying to throw left hooks and left hands... but it is an illusion. The straight left hand and the short left hook is right there for you.

That's how he got caught with a Mosely right hand in the 2nd round of their fight- all training camp he was preparing for Mosely's left hook, one of the better left hooks in the last 20 years of boxing and left himself open for the right hand.

Notice he recovered well after being tagged with the right hand and changed his defence to a more peakaboo style, with gloves held high- because he knew Mosely was a finisher of the highest pedigree and the only way to not get tagged with more rights and a killer left was to then switch from the shoulder roll, hug and hold a bit, and then give up the body and mid-section to clear the cobwebs and go on to lose the round for lack of activity and from points.

Floyd can't take a left hook or a straight left hand all night- even Judah had him looking for Judah's left hand before he got tagged with Judah's right.

That says something about Floyd, his attention to the right side of his body and/or jaw/equilibrium status on his right side. Could be an eye problem, could be an ear problem and he is disoriented and moves away from it, or it simply could be that one spot that he has to leave open to protect everywhere else with his impeccable defense.

Whatever it is, Floyd CLEARLY doesn't want to take shots to the right side of his face and head... no matter what they say about the peakaboo, the shoulder roll, or the waist-weave (see Pernell Whitaker) you have to leave something open. You just have to.

This was the only quality post in this thread. No wonder nobody liked it, since most people here do not know shit about boxing

[ykdadamaja]

I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.

Judah was a slick Southpaw with an awesome straight left hand... Floyd can't shoulder roll off of his left shoulder AND defend his right side at the same time. How he beats you with the shoulder roll is when you give up on trying to throw left hooks and left hands... but it is an illusion. The straight left hand and the short left hook is right there for you.

That's how he got caught with a Mosely right hand in the 2nd round of their fight- all training camp he was preparing for Mosely's left hook, one of the better left hooks in the last 20 years of boxing and left himself open for the right hand.

Notice he recovered well after being tagged with the right hand and changed his defence to a more peakaboo style, with gloves held high- because he knew Mosely was a finisher of the highest pedigree and the only way to not get tagged with more rights and a killer left was to then switch from the shoulder roll, hug and hold a bit, and then give up the body and mid-section to clear the cobwebs and go on to lose the round for lack of activity and from points.

Floyd can't take a left hook or a straight left hand all night- even Judah had him looking for Judah's left hand before he got tagged with Judah's right.

That says something about Floyd, his attention to the right side of his body and/or jaw/equilibrium status on his right side. Could be an eye problem, could be an ear problem and he is disoriented and moves away from it, or it simply could be that one spot that he has to leave open to protect everywhere else with his impeccable defense.

Whatever it is, Floyd CLEARLY doesn't want to take shots to the right side of his face and head... no matter what they say about the peakaboo, the shoulder roll, or the waist-weave (see Pernell Whitaker) you have to leave something open. You just have to.

This was the only quality post in this thread. No wonder nobody liked it, since most people here do not know shit about boxing

Why thank you, sir. They typically say that I don't know shit about boxing, either. But my 5 years as an amateur and years of sparring gave me a bit of insight.

Not sure of anyone else's pedigree in the fight game on this board, wouldn't be shocked if someone here had some real professional experience, but I watched, studied and practiced enough to know a little thing or three.