Who's next for Wlad?

[El Kabong]

I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.

Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty much

[erics44]

I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.

Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty much

40 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?

o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight

[El Kabong]

I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.

Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty much

40 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?

o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight

The clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.

Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.

It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.

[Memphis]

I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.

Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty much

40 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?

o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight

The clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.

Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.

It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.

The quarter back was also throwing the ball away when he had receiver type guys open and begging for the ball. Sorry but its a fact.

[El Kabong]

The quarter back was also throwing the ball away when he had receiver type guys open and begging for the ball. Sorry but its a fact.

Man you ARE British, else you would know...Wide outs ALWAYS think they are open Memphis


Wlad did clinch and tie up more than he needed to, but when he was trying for the KO he wasn't the one holding, he was the one pushing and punching and apparently that was worse than holding in the eyes of the ref.

[erics44]

I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.

Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty much

40 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?

o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight

The clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.

Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.

It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.

nope vital differences

keeper clearing the ball is within the rules v holding in boxing is not within the rules
keeper clearing the ball is a defensive reaction v wlads holding is the bases of his whole attacking strategy

you'll never win this argument because i am right and you are wrong

you can come up with all sorts of crazy analogies like the keeper clearing the ball or hatton fouls too or fouls arent fouls unless they are called but nothing can compare or lighted in any way the extremely extreme level of cheating that wlad does and the corruption that surrounds his fights

[erics44]

by the way, if you want to compare the situation with other sports and the level of fouling lets do that

a typical football match perhaps has 15 to 20 fouls perhaps in the 90 minutes, resulting in free kicks and perhaps a penalty or two. Some matches have 1 or 2 yellow cards, some 3 or 4, some have 5 or 6. some of those matches are dirtier than others but all within the acceptable and normal level of dirtyness

on saturday night Klitchko FC played Provetkin FC in a huge internation match, the klitchkos referee arrived at the stadium driving the porche which the evenings pay packet had bought him with the initial payment, the rest of the money would be delivered on certain promises of performance

the game kicks off, the Klitchko players are kicking and handballing and scratching and leg sweeping and pulling the shorts down of the opposition from the very start an no free kicks are given

towards the end of the game the ref awards a penalty (the first foul that he has given against the klit fc) to Provetkin FC the score being 12 - 0 to Klit FC.

the whistle blows and Klit FC comfortably win the game and remain the champions

the ref has delivered on his promises and the receives the remainder of his pay cheque, goes home and books a nice holiday

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Where's John Ruiz when you need him?

[Rantcatrat]

I think Pulev, Stiverne or Arreola are decent challenges if Wlad fights before Fury-Haye takes place. If Fury beat Haye, Fury-Klitschko would be a fun fight while it lasted.