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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    Look what he does to Antillon at the end of the video and it didnt even look like he put everything in it..


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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    I don't know why Valero hitting harder than Pac = Valero beating Pac, or even giving Pac a tough fight.

    Valero had power that was off the charts, that much can't be denied, but I remember a guy who's technical ability had diminished and relied heavily on landing the big shot (not a great strategy to beat Pac). I remember him taking a lot of punishment from much lesser fighters who had the balls to stand up to him, like Mosquera.

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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    Freddie Roach was notorious for pulling Pac back a little in sparring....
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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I don't know why Valero hitting harder than Pac = Valero beating Pac, or even giving Pac a tough fight.

    Valero had power that was off the charts, that much can't be denied, but I remember a guy who's technical ability had diminished and relied heavily on landing the big shot (not a great strategy to beat Pac). I remember him taking a lot of punishment from much lesser fighters who had the balls to stand up to him, like Mosquera.
    Not only about the power but Valero would have switched up into his boxer-puncher mode had he faced a beast like Pac, straight up like a chameleon..

    Pac would have got beaten into submission.. Roach might even throw in the towel

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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post

    Not only about the power but Valero would have switched up into his boxer-puncher mode had he faced a beast like Pac, straight up like a chameleon..

    Pac would have got beaten into submission.. Roach might even throw in the towel
    Look at all the punches he's taking there in sparring.

    At the time Valero died, Manny was a WW and Valero was still at LW. How do we know Valero carries his power up to welterweight? He fought 3 times a LW, he murdered Pitalua but his last two fights were mid to later round stoppages where the opponent quit, not one-punch KO's like he was scoring at 130.

    Valero was a dynamite puncher for his weight, p4p, but there's no way he could hit Pac harder than a full fledged 154lber like Margarito did.

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    Default Re: according to sparring mates like Mikey Garcia, Valero punched harder than Pac

    Valero probably did have better raw power but Manny was amazing during that period, even Floyd avoided him.
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