Roy Jones would have beat all these idiots

[chris6878]

Roy went 15 years as an unbeatable force (besides the lame DQ to Griffen which was avenged by brutal 1st round KO).

Floyd's the only better fighter I've seen in my time watching boxing.

floyd better than roy.....delusional

[imp]

Roy went 15 years as an unbeatable force (besides the lame DQ to Griffen which was avenged by brutal 1st round KO).

Floyd's the only better fighter I've seen in my time watching boxing.

floyd better than roy.....delusional

Who knows.

[mikeeod]

Zhubin, love cats like u that talk without thinkng things through. 34 is still prime years for Roy's generation. He was coming off the biggest win of his career, and there was no noticeable slip until Tarver touched his chin.

As for the weight, this is where ur lack of understanding in the sport shines. The heaviest estimates for Roy in the Ruiz fight were 199, with most agreeing that he was 193. The light heavy limit is 175, and Roy, like all boxers, could cut at least 10 pounds of water by drying out right before the weigh in and then rehydrating. So.... The weight cut wasn't as drastic as the fanboys try n make it seem.

Roy was a good fighter. EXTREMELY talented. He should be given credit for beating Hop, Toney, Hill, Griffith, Ruiz, and Tarver, but to suggest that he is the greatest or fought better comp than Ward, Floyd, Hop, Sweet Pea...etc. is asinine. Sorry buddy, he just doesn't have the resume of an ATG. Had he beaten Benn, Eubank, Collins, Darius M, Mclellan...etc., then u would have a case for him.

[mikeeod]

Haha. Zhubin, u didn't have Roy's baby, did u?!? Look buddy, Roy was never explosive unless he was blowing out no hope competition like Percy Harris, Richard Frazier, and Glenn Kelly. He always struggled against decently skilled fighters, like Eric Harding made Roy struggle.

It's like I told u earlier, Roy was fast enough to easily win the fight vs Toney, be he never had him in trouble. The knockdown was a case of James being off balance more than being hurt or shaken up. Against Hop he never had him in trouble or shaky either.

The one fight where Roy looked impressive against a solid fighter by stopping him was the second Griffith fight. Roy just doesn't have the resume to back up your bias for him and claims for his greatness.

Roy feasted on weak competition. That isn't an opinion, that's a fact. How many guys did Roy fight and beat that were ranked P4P at the time of the fight? Do you even know?!? Let me help you, it was one guy: James Toney. Roy never fought the major challenges at any weight he competed in other than Toney and Tarver. I give him credit for both wins, cause he dominated Toney n dug down for the win vs Tarver. That said, to insinuate that he beat better comp or is greater than Hop, Floyd, Ward, Pac, Sweet Pea...etc. is just laughable.

Roy was talented, more talented than any of those guys listed above. He was a great fighter and very unorthodox. But he never fought tough competition and to say that he was spectacular based on his blowouts of weak competition is just asinine. Sorry buddy.

[Beanflicker]

Roy went 15 years as an unbeatable force (besides the lame DQ to Griffen which was avenged by brutal 1st round KO).

Floyd's the only better fighter I've seen in my time watching boxing.

floyd better than roy.....delusional

Roy was the greatest natural talent in the history of boxing, but Floyd had a more well rounded skillset.

[chris6878]

Roy went 15 years as an unbeatable force (besides the lame DQ to Griffen which was avenged by brutal 1st round KO).

Floyd's the only better fighter I've seen in my time watching boxing.

floyd better than roy.....delusional

Roy was the greatest natural talent in the history of boxing, but Floyd had a more well rounded skillset.

I can agree with that

[mikeeod]

Ward has a very good shot at beating a prime Roy. Roy was talented, but go back and watch him against solid fighters who weren't intimidated and you will see he was not as dominant. Hop was green in their first fight, and once he got over the nerves he started winning rounds. It's why he always wanted a rematch with Roy, he knew he could beat him.

Roy was unorthodox and able to beat anyone because of his natural gifts, but to say that Ward, GGG, and even Stevenson couldn't beat him is crazy. Roy's most impressive wins were vs Hop, Toney, Griffith, Ruiz, and Tarver. Hop was green, Toney was lazy and inconsistent, Ruiz was a joke, and Roy struggled with Montell in the first fight n Tarver for all 3. Eric Harding have Roy trouble also, and he wasn't a great fighter.

I'm not a Roy hater, but Ward has the skill and speed combo to give Roy too much to handle, GGG has the punch and ability to take advantage of Roy's chin, and Stevenson is awkward and a big enough puncher to catch Roy. I think people would have a better idea of Roy's true greatness had he fought guys like Benn, Eubank, Darius M., Mclellan, Nunn, Liles...etc. He was an unbelievably talented fighter, but he wasn't as unbeatable as his fans try to portray.

[ykdadamaja]

Roy would have beat everyone silly, aside from Ward... Ward would have been the toughest match, sorta like Bernard Hopkins with a little extra in Hop/RJJ's first fight.

[vpasqual123]

I agree! However, with one exception. The one guy I think would have given Jones problems was Bob Foster at 6'3". Tall, Lanky and could punch. I called this years ago and I know Roy was finally beat is it not a coincidence it was by a tall lanky rangy fighter. NO!

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[mikeeod]

Ward has a very good shot at beating a prime Roy. Roy was talented, but go back and watch him against solid fighters who weren't intimidated and you will see he was not as dominant. Hop was green in their first fight, and once he got over the nerves he started winning rounds. It's why he always wanted a rematch with Roy, he knew he could beat him.

Roy was unorthodox and able to beat anyone because of his natural gifts, but to say that Ward, GGG, and even Stevenson couldn't beat him is crazy. Roy's most impressive wins were vs Hop, Toney, Griffith, Ruiz, and Tarver. Hop was green, Toney was lazy and inconsistent, Ruiz was a joke, and Roy struggled with Montell in the first fight n Tarver for all 3. Eric Harding have Roy trouble also, and he wasn't a great fighter.

I'm not a Roy hater, but Ward has the skill and speed combo to give Roy too much to handle, GGG has the punch and ability to take advantage of Roy's chin, and Stevenson is awkward and a big enough puncher to catch Roy. I think people would have a better idea of Roy's true greatness had he fought guys like Benn, Eubank, Darius M., Mclellan, Nunn, Liles...etc. He was an unbelievably talented fighter, but he wasn't as unbeatable as his fans try to portray.

[zhubin]

Ward has a very good shot at beating a prime Roy. Roy was talented, but go back and watch him against solid fighters who weren't intimidated and you will see he was not as dominant. Hop was green in their first fight, and once he got over the nerves he started winning rounds. It's why he always wanted a rematch with Roy, he knew he could beat him.

Roy was unorthodox and able to beat anyone because of his natural gifts, but to say that Ward, GGG, and even Stevenson couldn't beat him is crazy. Roy's most impressive wins were vs Hop, Toney, Griffith, Ruiz, and Tarver. Hop was green, Toney was lazy and inconsistent, Ruiz was a joke, and Roy struggled with Montell in the first fight n Tarver for all 3. Eric Harding have Roy trouble also, and he wasn't a great fighter.

I'm not a Roy hater, but Ward has the skill and speed combo to give Roy too much to handle, GGG has the punch and ability to take advantage of Roy's chin, and Stevenson is awkward and a big enough puncher to catch Roy. I think people would have a better idea of Roy's true greatness had he fought guys like Benn, Eubank, Darius M., Mclellan, Nunn, Liles...etc. He was an unbelievably talented fighter, but he wasn't as unbeatable as his fans try to portray.

So much non sense here i don't even know where to start. First off...Roy did not struggle with Montell...he got DQed in their first fight for some bs...and came back to destroy him in the rematch. Hop was green?! He was a champ when Roy fought him...and Jones beat him with ease with a broken hand. When he fought Toney...James was 46-0 and considered one of the very best pound 4 pound fighters in the game...Roy took care of him with ease. It has been clearly documented that the Roy Jones that fought Tarver was no longer a prime Roy (add to it the troubles he had with weight coming back down). He would have trouble with Stevenson and GGG??!!! Two fighters who have fought no one of worth to date. GGG is a linear fighter and Roy would have made him look slow as molasses. Stevenson?! A one dimensional puncher. Ward is similar to Hopkins in that he is a crafty fighter that likes to makes things ugly. Now Andre Ward is better than that version of Hopkins. But Roy's quickness and bizarre angles would limit Ward’s counter punching and inside fighting. He’d be forced to be a little more offensive and that’d play into Jones’ hands. Just way too much speed for Ward to deal with.

In conclusion...you ARE a Roy hater.

[oakleyno1]

Stevenson & Kovalev would not stand a chance!!!!

Froch would be to slow but would have been intrigued to see Froch start throwing him around the ring like with dirrell after the first few rounds - I think Froch would lose a one sided ish UD

Ward I think would of genuinely had a shot at beating him

Kessler would have been an interesting fight style wish imo as would Taylor in his early days

can't make up my mind about Joe Calzaghe at all despite seeing them fight later his jones' career

[FinitoElDinamita]

Unbelievable.. lol Mikeeod is not a hater...

Read between his lines and its obvious the guy just doesnt know shit about Boxing, plain and simple.

[Beanflicker]

Some of you mutha fuckas musta forgot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmpaCEXJBc

[mikeeod]

Hop was green. I know I don't know much about boxing, but it was a fight for a vacated title, which means neither guy held the IBF title. But what do I know? Also, look at Hop fight Roy n Mercado n then look at him fight Tito, Holmes, Joppy, Eastman...etc. Hop was much more of a complete fighter later in his career

I don't know much about boxing, compared to you guys, but while I agree with u that Toney was undefeated, he had disputed wins against Tiberi and Reggie Johnson, and was lucky to get the draw. In those fights as well as the Thadzi n Griffith fights, u can see how James had issues with fast, active fighters. Roy dominated their fight, but he never really hurt James n his style was made to defeat James.

Jones struggled in the first fight with Griffith, which led to his frustration n the dq. Watch the fight n try n be objective, not just see what u want from ur hero.

Where has it been documented that Roy was so far past his prime?!? This should be good. Since u guys know so much, where is that documented at n by whom? He fought Tarver coming off his win over Ruiz n Tarver fought him tough. Roy was as fast as ever in the rematch until Tarver caught him on the chin.

Look, Roy was the most talented fighter. He may have had what was necessary to be one of the greatest ever. Roy never faces the competition available to prove his greatness and most likely never has the chin to win fighting consistently at that level. But I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about...