Nonito Donaire fires Robert Garcia... Employs his dad

[IamInuit]

Best post I've seen about Donaire! Boxing fans can stop on a dime and change direction instantly, we really are a fickly bunch.

Was never a fan of the guy or his squeaky clean image and always though he was an overrated hype job being created by Arum to slide into Mannys place. A magicians trick who was fooling people by fighting guys half his size. Rigo merely sustained that fact.

[IamInuit]

Besides if Joe Louis is a 200 pound plodder and anyone prior to 1984 not worthy of boxing greatness then wtf is with Donaire? A one handed fighter that made a name for himself fighting midgets.

[beenKOed]

Besides if Joe Louis is a 200 pound plodder and anyone prior to 1984 not worthy of boxing greatness then wtf is with Donaire? A one handed fighter that made a name for himself fighting midgets.

You aren't going to start foaming at the mouth are you?

[IamInuit]

Besides if Joe Louis is a 200 pound plodder and anyone prior to 1984 not worthy of boxing greatness then wtf is with Donaire? A one handed fighter that made a name for himself fighting midgets.

You aren't going to start foaming at the mouth are you?

Please. The emotional card is just as lame.

[Ron Swanson]

There is nothing I find more peculiar than the concept Donaire of all people is clean. Maybe he is. But BEFORE he decided to do random testing he hired the guy most famous for beating random testing. We have absolutely no idea if Donaire is clean or not. Guilt by association isn't fair but it's part of life.

[walrus]

I saw a few interviews where Donaire said his heart isn't in boxing anymore. Is his biggest problem himself.

[Addicted to_boxing]

I saw a few interviews where Donaire said his heart isn't in boxing anymore. Is his biggest problem himself.

That is because Arum is no longer into him. Top Ranks well has run dry with opponents. All opponents of merit belong to GBP.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Love hearing people shit-talk Donaire, a true champion, an action fighter, a knockout artist, a guy who VOLUNTARILY subjects himself to VADA testing to show the fans that he is genuine and not a steroid cheat, a guy who was considered a top p4p fighter forever before losing to Rigondeaux, one of the slickest, craftiest motherfuckers in boxing.

Best post I've seen about Donaire! Boxing fans can stop on a dime and change direction instantly, we really are a fickly bunch.

Nope just too many fighters he never faced at the top of their game. All his big fights were against questionable talent with .500 winning percentage at best in last 2-6 fights. No Mares, Santa Cruz, Garcia . Only little known belt holders and ex champions ala Pac style compliments of Arum.

[Mr140]

Well i would not say he is overrated but most of the guys he has faced look like they were kids compared to him really. He had a huge size advantage over everyone and reach then fights a another guy his size and gets a lesson. I mean they weren't in same leauge really not even close way out matched. There no same in losing but he was ranked really fucking high pound for pound for beating guys he was way bigger then and when he could not knock a guy out kinda had no plain b really. People were saying he was top pound for pound then got owned and looked like a dear in the head lights also to a guy his size and not some won he was huge against. He is most likely going to lose to the top guys at the weight above him which he is going to have to move up he should be fight a lw really and Gamboa would kill that dude.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Well i would not say he is overrated but most of the guys he has faced look like they were kids compared to him really. He had a huge size advantage over everyone and reach then fights a another guy his size and gets a lesson. I mean they weren't in same leauge really not even close way out matched. There no same in losing but he was ranked really fucking high pound for pound for beating guys he was way bigger then and when he could not knock a guy out kinda had no plain b really. People were saying he was top pound for pound then got owned and looked like a dear in the head lights also to a guy his size and not some won he was huge against. He is most likely going to lose to the top guys at the weight above him which he is going to have to move up he should be fight a lw really and Gamboa would kill that dude.

You think Gamboa would kill Nonito?

[Mr140]

Yea i think he would crush him and make him look bad to be honest if they fight at lw were Donaire should of been a long time ago. He has been fighting guys who he literally makes look like there are children because of how much bigger he is. I think Gamboa speed and power would rock shit out of him.

[Beanflicker]

But BEFORE he decided to do random testing he hired the guy most famous for beating random testing. We have absolutely no idea if Donaire is clean or not. Guilt by association isn't fair but it's part of life.

Right. The guy you are referring to is Victor Conte, who ran Balco, who was busted by the feds and served prison time for distributing steroids to athletes. Why would a guy FAMOUS for being busted, the godfather of PEDs himself, a straight guy who went to prison for it, come out and get into the same racket?

Conte also works with the commissions and some of these anti-doping agencies to enhance drug testing, because obviously he knows the in's and out's. And before he got into the steroid business, he was actually a world renowned nutritionist who pioneered a lot of legit stuff, including doing rigorous testing on athlete's blood to see what could be improved (white cell counts, what nutritients were deficient, ect). From all accounts, he's gone back into the legal nutrition side of things and is doing just fine.

If he was back in the steroid game and had anything to hide, he would be hiding it. You wouldn't hear of people PUBLICLY signing on with him: it would all take place in private like it used to. If a guy was doing steroids, why would he openly hire the godfather of steroids, a guy known for it? The only reason would be is that they're on the level and have nothing to hide. So I don't buy into those conclusions about Donaire and other fighters who are working with Conte.

[Master]

I like Donaire he is exciting and believes he needs a shake up in his training. It is his career and he can choose whoever he wants. I think Garcia is not as good as many people make out.

[Addicted to_boxing]

But BEFORE he decided to do random testing he hired the guy most famous for beating random testing. We have absolutely no idea if Donaire is clean or not. Guilt by association isn't fair but it's part of life.

Right. The guy you are referring to is Victor Conte, who ran Balco, who was busted by the feds and served prison time for distributing steroids to athletes. Why would a guy FAMOUS for being busted, the godfather of PEDs himself, a straight guy who went to prison for it, come out and get into the same racket?

Conte also works with the commissions and some of these anti-doping agencies to enhance drug testing, because obviously he knows the in's and out's. And before he got into the steroid business, he was actually a world renowned nutritionist who pioneered a lot of legit stuff, including doing rigorous testing on athlete's blood to see what could be improved (white cell counts, what nutritients were deficient, ect). From all accounts, he's gone back into the legal nutrition side of things and is doing just fine.

If he was back in the steroid game and had anything to hide, he would be hiding it. You wouldn't hear of people PUBLICLY signing on with him: it would all take place in private like it used to. If a guy was doing steroids, why would he openly hire the godfather of steroids, a guy known for it? The only reason would be is that they're on the level and have nothing to hide. So I don't buy into those conclusions about Donaire and other fighters who are working with Conte.

This coming from the biggest PAC nut masseuse. This would be a complete 360 character assassination if Conte were working for Floyd.