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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Joe Louis has been described as one of the greatest HW's of all time by the old timers.

    But if that is so then why isn't the division today dominated by and populated with 200lb plodders anymore like Louis?

    You see, the OTNB (Old Time Nut-Bag) community has never been able to formulate a coherent answer to this question?

    The question can be further extended to other boxers...

    Why is it not populated/dominated by 185lb plodders like MArciano?
    Or 210lb string beans with no power or proper defence like Ali?
    Or 5'10" 205lb handicaps with no power or chin or skills like Frazier?

    Basically if these blueprints for fighters would be so effective today... Where are they?

    None of these styles were particularly uncopyable or special! So simple physical laws suggest that they should be there kicking ass!!
    Sir, you are what we OTNBs call a YK (Young Knothead), why in the hell would anyone try to answer or explain anything so damned obvious. Yes, some of us OTNBs drink too much, or get our MEDS mixed up, or our bodies hurt and we want to argue, or do a little trolling when we run on about the sorry state of the heavies and the heavies themselves, but do you really think they can't see the difference in the size and weight of the modern heavy and what that means?
    You used to hear "a good big man will beat a good small man" when talking about a difference of 20lbs, if you talk about the modern heavies compared to earlier heavies the difference can be 60lbs!
    There were a couple of exceptions Willard and Carnera, both dismissed for their size with Carnera thought to have shady connections.
    There is noway for you to come out ahead if you start calling Louis, Marciano, Ali and Frazier bums, you are asking everyone to dismiss the rest of what you have to say as more BS, in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    I'm not calling them bums, they all had great records didn't they, they were all world champs at one time.
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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    I would Hope they would not lose when the have steroids, height, reach and about 50 pounds on the fighter shit kinda no brainier. This does not make them better because they were bigger just means they could beat guys who were division above them and that's about it different eras really.

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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I'm not calling them bums, they all had great records didn't they, they were all world champs at one time.
    Sir, read what you write, how do you expect some of that to be interpreted?

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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    Again just because you are heavier doesnt mean you hit harder. Fury 50 pounds heavier then guys who hit harder then him. You also have to take into account that in the olden days being the heavyweight champion made you king of the world. You had a lot more of the best athletes trying to be a boxer. Nowadays a lot of the top athletes are going for other sports instead. This shows why pretty useless boxers can have some success.

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    Default Re: Why is the HW division not dominated by a 200lb plodder?

    Because you learn to exploit certain traits better as time goes on.

    This is like saying "Why isn't a Greek the smartest person in the world? Plato and Aristotle were!" Surely you can't deny brilliance during their respective eras same with Louis, Ali, Rocky, et al....also better healthcare means bigger people.


    This thread is fairly disrespectful of some great boxers.

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