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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    January 1962

    .................................................. 1962 Record

    *** Floyd Patterson ..................... 0-1-0
    #1 .. Sonny Liston ....................... 1-0-0 {1 KO}
    #2 .. Eddie Machen ..................... 2-0-1 {1 KO}
    #3 .. Zora Folley ......................... 6-1-0 {3 KO's}
    #4 .. Alejandro Lavorante ............ 0-3-0
    #5 .. Robert Cleroux .................... 7-2-0 {6 KO's}
    #6 .. Ingemar Johansson ............. 3-0-0 {3 KO's}
    #7 .. Cleveland Williams ............... 3-0-1 {3 KO's}
    #8 .. Henry Cooper ...................... 3-0-0 {3 KO's}
    #9 .. George Logan ...................... 0-2-0
    #10 . Cassius Clay ........................ 6-0-0 {6 KO's}
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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    April 23, 1962

    Sports Arena ~ Los Angeles, California

    #10 Cassius Clay ~ 12-0-0 {9 KO's} ~ 6' 3" ~ 196 lbs. ~ {Age; 20 years, 3 months}
    vs.
    #12 George Logan ~ 23-7-1 {14 KO's} ~ 6' 1" ~ 205 lbs. ~ {Age; 25 years, 8 months}

    The Skinny >

    Cassius Clay was a {4-1} Betting-Favorite

    George Logan was coming off a 'beat-down' demolition at the hands of Robert Cleroux {L TKO 7} at the Sports Arena
    only 7-Weeks earlier {March 5, 1962}.

    In that bout, George was 'busted up' and cut badly over the right-eye. George was badly 'battered' in the bout, and only
    won '1' Round.

    The rumor here, was that George Logan and his Manager - Al Berro were taking the easy cash {$4000} to be a 'sacrificial lamb',
    as the cut had not properly healed.

    Al Berro {Manager} >
    "I see no reason to worry. George has some damage over his right-eye, but he knows how to protect the cut from
    re-opening. We know that Clay will be aiming for the eye. So, we know his game plan. He can't hit George if we're
    backing him up."

    George Logan >
    "I have to back him up. I can't get into a boxing-match at Center-Ring, otherwise he'll win. I must back him up
    and pin him along the Ropes. If I do that, I'll wear him down."

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    its true. This is a scandal of outrageous proportions. Never in the history of boxing have i heard of crooked or incompetent ranking systems. This now clouds my whole opinion of the saintly sport, which hitherto was a bastion of gentlemanly conduct, respectful behaviour, fair fights and decent, balanced fans.

    It's just a good job that this particular fighter was later shown to simply not be very good, and I suspect he just quickly disappeared off the radar of the hard core boxing fan. We are lucky that the general public never really heard of him so he didn't later prove to be the reason boxing was so unpopular in the 60's and 70's.

    I do declare I detect a cretinous buffoon ...... And it ain't Cassius.
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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    Was the LSG connected.

    You bet they were..........'Louisville Sponsoring Group'

    Do you think they had a few Sportswriters in their pocket.

    Those group of men in Louisville didn't get rich by playing Tiddly-Winks.

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Was the LSG connected.

    You bet they were..........'Louisville Sponsoring Group'

    Do you think they had a few Sportswriters in their pocket.

    Those group of men in Louisville didn't get rich by playing Tiddly-Winks.

    This is fascinating! Tell me more.

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    Ruthless Rocco,

    I suggest you type in 'Il Duce' and the LSG.

    That 'Magnificent Bastard' put together one in-depth and detailed outline of everything.

    "Il bastardo di magnifico"
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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Ruthless Rocco,

    I suggest you type in 'Il Duce' and the LSG.

    That 'Magnificent Bastard' put together one in-depth and detailed outline of everything.

    "Il bastardo di magnifico"
    So all this crap you've been posting for days is just you plagiarizing some other windbag from another forum?

    Get a life.

    If all this crap can be found on another site then how about you post the link and shut the hell up.

    Surely you can see that your efforts aren't much appreciated.

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    April 23, 1962

    Sports Arena ~ Los Angeles, California

    Attendance ...... { 7065 }
    Gate Receipts ... { $57,500 }

    Cassius Clay vs. George Logan

    Betting-Odds > {4-1} Cassius Clay

    The Fight

    Cassius was quick on his feet in the Opening Round, and jabbed while circling quickly to his left. George 'plodded' forward,
    but was no match in the hand-speed department. George was taking too long to let go with a punch, as Cassius moved fast.

    Cassius raked George with left-jabs to the face, and follow-up right-crosses to take Round 1.

    In Round 2, it was a different story. George moved in faster, and landed several long right-hands that bounced off Cassius'
    left shoulder and grazed his head. Cassius was then forced to fight inside as George closed the gap. The action was 'fairly even'
    on the inside.

    Cassius was faster, but George was stronger. At the {1:40 mark} George landed a long right-hand to Cassius' head that stung
    him, forcing Cassius to grab. Cassius was forced to hold on, as George smothered him with a mauling attack.

    As both fought on the inside, each landed crisp punches. At the end of the Round, George was pawing at his left-eye as Cassius
    had 'intentionally' thumbed him.

    In Round 3, George made a strong attempt early, and was aggressive with clubbing punches. But, Cassius made his move
    at the {1:20 Mark}, and opened up by landing 'stiff' left-jabs into George's face.

    By the {2:00 Mark} , Cassius was adding in 'left-right' combinations which had George baffled. George put together a
    brief-rally at the {2:30 Mark}, but Cassius came back with a some solid punches late to stall George's aggression ending
    Round 3.

    In Round 4, Cassius opened up by raking over George with a variety of punches. Stiff left-jabs, left-right combinations and
    right-crosses. By the {0:40 Mark} George was sporting a cut under his right-eye, and his nose was bleeding badly.

    George gave it a good effort to fight back, but he was no match for Cassius' speed. At the {1:15 Mark} Cassius landed
    a jarring right-cross to the jaw which stopped George in his tracks. Cassius then added in a flurry that had George baffled.

    Cassius then drove George backwards with a right-cross to the head, and then landed several sharp punches into his face.
    Moments later at the {1:34 Mark} George Logan's corner 'threw-in-the towel'.

    Referee - Lew Grossman jumped in an halted the one-side shellacking.

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    logan was bıg enough but too slow and ploddıng

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    Cassius Clay vs. George Logan

    After Bout Review >

    Cassius looked good against his toughest opponent yet. He was just 'too fast' and 'too sharp' for the Boise Brawler - George Logan.

    Cassius stated that he was ready for Champion - Floyd Patterson. But that was just 'foolish bravado'.

    George Logan complained that he was intentionally 'thumbed in the left-eye' during in-fighting late in Round 2.

    George Logan >
    "That prick 'thumbed' me in my left-eye in Round 2. I was getting to him, and when I got inside and in close, he jammed his
    right-hand into my left-eye and thumbed me."

    "My eye was really bothering me at the end of the Round, and I told my Manager {Al Berro} that it hurt real bad."

    Al Berro {Manager} >
    "George came back to the corner at the end of Round 2 complaining about getting thumbed in the left-eye. I told George
    to go back out there in Round 3, and punch that 'dirty prick' in the nuts. I told him to get inside, and drive a right uppercut
    into Clay's nuts and to split his balls in half."

    "But George didn't want to do it, because he didn't want to win by playing dirty. After he got a bad gash under the right-eye,
    I had to throw in the towel. His vision was blurred, and he couldn't see."

    "There will be another day to fight Clay. We'll take a few months off, and ask for a return match."

    George Logan did not fight again for 10-Months, and returned on February 20, 1963
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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    After defeating {#12 Ranked} George Logan

    Cassius Clay moved up from #10 to #9 in the May 1962 Ratings.

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    May 1962 Rankings {as of May 1, 1962}

    *** Floyd Pattersin
    #1 .. Sonny Liston
    #2 .. Eddie Machen
    #3 .. Zora Folley
    #4 .. Ingemar Johansson
    #5 .. Cleveland Williams
    #6 .. Henry Cooper
    #7 .. Robert Cleroux
    #8 .. Archie Moore
    #9 .. Cassius Clay
    #10 . Alejandro Lavorante

    Big Fights

    * March 30, 1962 ........ Light Heavyweight Champion - Archie Moore {TKO 10} over #4 Alejandro Lavorante

    * April 2, 1962 ............ #8 Henry Cooper {TKO 9} over Joe Erskine

    * April 3, 1962 ............ #6 Cleveland Williams {TKO 7} over 'unranked' but highly regarded Ernie Terrell

    * April 18, 1962 .......... #3 Zora Folley {W Dec 10} over #5 Robert Cleroux

    * April 23, 1962 ......... #10 Cassius Clay {TKO 4} over #12 George Logan

    * April 23, 1962 .......... #2 Eddie Machen {TKO 6} over Bert Whitehurst
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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    May 1962

    Upcoming Bouts for Cassius Clay

    At first, the LSG Management Team was trying for Boston club-fighter Claude Chapman.

    Claude was a tough Boston Brawler with a record of 29-8-0 {13 KO's}. He was the 'perfect'
    opponent, as he was old {Age; 33 years, 11 months} and slow. He did pack a decent
    wallop, but he was nothing more than a club-fighter.

    There was talk of Cassius taking on former Title Challenger - Tom McNeeley, another
    New England Heavyweight.

    Tom {Age; 25 years, 2 months} had a record of 24-2-0 {18 KO's}, and had a 'name'.
    But he was really nothing more than a 'fringe contender', and had nothing more than a
    punchers chance against Cassius.

    Tom was demolished {LTKO 11} by Floyd Patterson on December 4, 1961 ~ and then was
    'upset' {L Dec 10} by Don Prout on January 22, 1962.

    Tom defeated {W Dec 10} Don Prout in a rematch on March 16th.

    But, the Clay Team felt that Tom was 'too tough' at this time.
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    "Two Undefeated Heavyweights To Go At It"

    Cassius Clay to take on New York's Billy 'The Barber' Daniels.

    The first bout for 'Young Cassius', where he will meet a competent opponent.

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    Default Re: 1962 ~ Cassius Clay goes from #10 Ranking to #2 ~ "What the F***"

    The Skinny

    Saturday Night ~
    May 19, 1962

    Cassius Clay
    Age......... 20 years, 4 months
    Height..... 6' 3"
    Reach...... 78"
    Weight..... 196 lbs.
    Record..... 13-0-0 {10 KO's}
    Rank........ #9 Ring Magazine / #7 NBA

    Billy Daniels
    Age......... 24 years, 8 months
    Height..... 6' 4"
    Reach...... 80"
    Weight.... 189 lbs.
    Record.... 16-0-0 {7 KO's}
    Rank....... #19 Ring Magazine / #16 NBA

    Betting-Favorite ..... Cassius Clay { 5-1 }

    A Saturday Night Television Bout at St. Nicholas Arena ~ New York City, New York

    Billy 'The Barber' Daniels is a 2-year Professional. He also was a 1960 New York Golden Gloves Champion.
    Billy has had all '14' of his bouts here in New York.

    Billy is a lanky and awkward boxer, who has a pretty good long looping right-hand.

    He is coming off a good win over 'tough' Boston club-fighter Claude Chapman. In that bout {January 29, 1962},
    Billy dropped Claude in the 1st Round, but he himself was dropped in Round 4. It was a tough fight, but Billy
    rallied to win a 10-Round Decision.

    At this time, Billy Daniels {Age; 23 years, 7 months} was 8-0-0 {4 KO's}

    *May 13, 1961 ......... TKO 1 ........ Willie Bell ~ 13-4-1 {6 KO's}
    Willie 'The Ringer' Bell was a sturdy 24 year-old Heavyweight from Buffalo. Willie had won '10-Straight'.

    * May 27, 1961 ........ W Dec 6 .... Wilfredo Allevez ~ 14-2-0 {6 KO's}
    Wilfedo 'Candido' Allevez was a highly-regarded 22 year-old prospect from Puerto Rico

    * July 27, 1961 ........ TKO 5 ....... Johnny Jenkins ~ 21-4-5 {10 KO's}
    Johnny 'Double J' Jenkins was a tough 29 year-old Light Heavyweight club-fighter from Newark, Jersey.

    * August 26, 1961 ... W Dec 6 .... Claude Chapman ~ 28-5-0 {13 KO's}
    Claude Chapman was a 'tough' 33 year-old club-fighting Heavyweight from Boston. This 6-Round bout ended up as a 'controversial' Decision for Billy Daniels.

    * October 21, 1961 .. W Dec 6 ..... John Massey ~ 15-1-2 {14 KO's}
    John 'KO Kid' Massey was a 'highly regarded' 22 year-old Knockout Artist from Portland, Oregon.

    * November 11, 1961 . W Dec 10 ... Jefferson Davis ~ 11-1-0 {4 KO's}
    Jefferson 'Jeff' Davis was a talented 21 year-old 'lanky' 6' 4" boxer from Alabama. Jeff had lost his previous bout {L Dec 10} to talented Tony Alongi only 3 1/2 Weeks earlier.
    Jefferson had also fought Cassius Clay 4-Times in the Amateurs, and claimed '1' win.

    * December 11, 1961 .. TKO 3 ........ Don Warner ~ 16-5-2 {15 KO's}
    Don 'KO' Warner was a 22 year-old 'hard-hitting right-hand' Knockout Artist from Philadelphia.

    * January 29, 1962 .... W Dec 10 ... Claude Chapman ~ 29-7-0 {13 KO's}
    A rematch with the 33 year-old club-fighting Heavyweight from Boston.

    Billy Daniels >
    "I haven't fought in 4-Months, and I would have preferred another bout first. So, I'll have to be at my sharpest, because
    Clay is very fast and is tough to catch clean."

    "I'll take a few Rounds to see what he's got, and then I'll make my move around the 4th Round. I expect a good fight,
    and it should be a real close at the end. I think we're evenly matched, and we're both going to get hit."
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