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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Nunn v Tate
    I thought Nunn was beating Tate with ease and whenever he stepped up he hurt Tate. I need to check that one again.
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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Leonard v Benitez
    Hey, I finally see a post where I get to disagree with the Master!
    Man, that fight was way too entertaining to have been a chess match. By the 11th or so round, those two were glued forehead to forehead center ring --in a virtual phonebooth.

    Ray had to bring the dog out and pounded out a victory.
    I need to watch it again then but to me it was like a mirror match where they knew what each other was going to do and it was cagey.
    True. Even Ray stated years later that he felt like Benitez was a mirrored image of himself.
    Maybe I have gotten accustomed to anti-chess match fans calling that style of fight boring.
    Nothing boring about Leonard vs. Benitez

    And on the Nunn note, -Same here LOL, I thought Tate got schooled by Nunn.
    What I do need to watch again, was the reffing towards the end, Wasn't there a bogus count where Nunn should have won earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Leonard v Benitez
    Hey, I finally see a post where I get to disagree with the Master!
    Man, that fight was way too entertaining to have been a chess match. By the 11th or so round, those two were glued forehead to forehead center ring --in a virtual phonebooth.

    Ray had to bring the dog out and pounded out a victory.
    I need to watch it again then but to me it was like a mirror match where they knew what each other was going to do and it was cagey.

    True. Even Ray stated years later that he felt like Benitez was a mirrored image of himself.
    Maybe I have gotten accustomed to anti-chess match fans calling that style of fight boring.
    Nothing boring about Leonard vs. Benitez

    And on the Nunn note, -Same here LOL, I thought Tate got schooled by Nunn.
    What I do need to watch again, was the reffing towards the end, Wasn't there a bogus count where Nunn should have won earlier?
    Tate was going to lose either way. Nunn was a special fighter but I think the drugs took control over him achieving his true potential
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
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    Barerra vs Morales 1 was the best fight I ever saw and it was not a chess match.
    Some of the most instinctive reactions seen in it too. Also rare subtleties as well specially from Mab, like using an arm to dissolve a move and leave it out feel where the action is moving to at the same time. Not a usual block, but a shifting of position behind it slightly while getting the arm in the way then used as a feeler or a power dissolver.
    1. Initially I agreed that it was more of a war than a chess match, but the rebuttals are spot on, I concede.

    I wonder if MAB got the arm-to-disarm-move from JCC.
    While Ray Leonard was providing excellent commentary to JCC vs Rosario, it was the first time I ever noticed a fighter in the inside blocking shots with his arm, by turning it upward like a chicken wing.
    Can I call it the chicken-wing defence?
    JCC would block some of the most accurately thrown shots then counter to the body then head, truly a work of art.

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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    Sweet pea v Nelson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Sweet pea v Nelson
    SweaPea vs the Proffessor a battle of skills for sure.

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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    Mike McCallum v Herol Graham.

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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    I go for

    1 leonard vs benitez
    2 toney vs mccallum

    Did not watch many fights mentioned in this thread though

    Also,

    Tyson vs Ruddock I, II was chessy enough
    Ruddock seemed to figured out Mike, or declined Mike, so it was quite competitive
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    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
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    Default Re: Chess matches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?
    Tyson was awful in the that fight he did not punch in bunches and no real head movement. Tyson was loading up and he did break Razzors jaw and bruised some ribs but overall Tyson was finished as a top fighter at 25.

    I saw his destruction of Berbick and it was beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
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    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?
    Tyson was awful in the that fight he did not punch in bunches and no real head movement. Tyson was loading up and he did break Razzors jaw and bruised some ribs but overall Tyson was finished as a top fighter at 25.

    I saw his destruction of Berbick and it was beautiful.
    Was it the first fight when Tyson dropped Ruddock with a straight right off a neat little side-step?
    If you want to see chess matches, watch Miguel Canto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?
    Tyson was awful in the that fight he did not punch in bunches and no real head movement. Tyson was loading up and he did break Razzors jaw and bruised some ribs but overall Tyson was finished as a top fighter at 25.

    I saw his destruction of Berbick and it was beautiful.
    Was it the first fight when Tyson dropped Ruddock with a straight right off a neat little side-step?
    If you want to see chess matches, watch Miguel Canto.
    I think the knock downs came from the second fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?
    Tyson was awful in the that fight he did not punch in bunches and no real head movement. Tyson was loading up and he did break Razzors jaw and bruised some ribs but overall Tyson was finished as a top fighter at 25.

    I saw his destruction of Berbick and it was beautiful.
    Tyson even seemed gassed out by the 10th round. I remember some pretty questionable blows Tyson landed. Two times I think to the hip.
    Rounds 1-6, great, but after that, it seemed either he was declining or just wasn't a fighter who could do damage in the latter part of a fight they he could in the 1st half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson v Rudduck 2 is the fight I have probably watched the most and it was absorbing because anyone was liable to knock one another out.
    I haven't watched that fight in years, but I remember Ruddock being very one dimensional in this fight and just basically loading up on his "smash" hybrid over and over with limited success. Tyson had very good technique with his punches and defense (when he trained and focused on it) and I remember Tyson being a full level above Razor and dominating the fight. Am I missing something?
    Tyson was awful in the that fight he did not punch in bunches and no real head movement. Tyson was loading up and he did break Razzors jaw and bruised some ribs but overall Tyson was finished as a top fighter at 25.

    I saw his destruction of Berbick and it was beautiful.
    Tyson even seemed gassed out by the 10th round. I remember some pretty questionable blows Tyson landed. Two times I think to the hip.
    Rounds 1-6, great, but after that, it seemed either he was declining or just wasn't a fighter who could do damage in the latter part of a fight they he could in the 1st half.
    Yes I think in the 7th he got a pounding and seemed lost of ideas.
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