Apple Watch - Yay or Nay?

[Gandalf]

To any ordinary person that kind of price range is beyond reach. I've never really worn a watch. I mean, when I think of a product I think about use and the simple truth is that I have little use for a watch. I have clocks all around me, so why would I want to look at my wrist? Maybe it is a status thing for some, but that is a vacuous and shallow thing to really care about. The fact that English women might fall for such a gimmick doesn't surprise me. That is a nation addicted to celebrity, status and false idolatry.

[Xwetie]

To any ordinary person that kind of price range is beyond reach. I've never really worn a watch. I mean, when I think of a product I think about use and the simple truth is that I have little use for a watch. I have clocks all around me, so why would I want to look at my wrist? Maybe it is a status thing for some, but that is a vacuous and shallow thing to really care about. The fact that English women might fall for such a gimmick doesn't surprise me. That is a nation addicted to celebrity, status and false idolatry.

You seems to be pretty smart! I agree it's useless to buy things you wont use, good thinking! and i do apology for what i said about british women i take that back, i can't talk for all of them but for one of them though

[Gandalf]

No need to apologise, as I actually think there is likely some truth to what you say. There is also some truth to my comment too, but it is a sweeping statement to be saying that British women are all materialistic shallow whores. Of course, only some of them are. I should add it to my list of modern myths.

[walrus]

I don't know, I'm not into status or impressing people, I still wear tiedyed shirts and jeans but I have a solid gold Rolex and a nice stainless movado along with numerous other timepieces dating to the early 1900. When you think about it, all you really need is a little note on your wrist saying "now" and you will always know the correct time, regardless, I'm hung up on watches and don't plan on stopping, damnit

[Gandalf]

You seem a little different in that regard though, Walrus. You are not wearing it as a seduction device or saying to people 'Look at my watch, now kneel before me'. You just seem to have a thing for watches and collect them and that's perhaps a different thing.

Do you really own Apple shares though?

[walrus]

Yes, but I had a chance to get in when they were very low and I went a different direction. I actually think I may get a few more shares, I think they still have a lot of upside and an incredibly loyal following, mind you, I don't own any Apple products but they are a great company.

[Beanz]

You seem a little different in that regard though, Walrus. You are not wearing it as a seduction device or saying to people 'Look at my watch, now kneel before me'. You just seem to have a thing for watches and collect them and that's perhaps a different thing.

Do you really own Apple shares though?

No different than Gold. They are both morally indefensible, unethical investments. People die making or mining them, and you and Walrus profit at their expense. Carry on

[Gandalf]

Give an example of an ethical investment. All things considered precious metals is hardly like investing in fast food, electronics, or arms. In fact golds current problems stem from a manipulated price as ever conducted by the banks you all use and thus it costs more to mine than produce the gold. The lack of a true market value is what is unethical about gold. Mines should be running a healthy profit for what they do.

[Nameless]

I don't even own a cell phone yet because I feel like I don't need it (and in Canada we have the highest prices in the world for a contract, thanks to our monopolistic market) so I don't even see the use of such watch. I mean, to me, it simply looks like an iphone you can't call with with a smaller screen and attached to my wrist.

Fuck it.

[Gandalf]

These things are all nothing more than spying devices anyway. I was trying to figure out my crappy new free phone yesterday and I cannot even get the weather without giving my permanent location to Google. No fricking way. Have you read through the terms and conditions they put upon you? It has all gone too far and if anything we really need a new Luddite movement to bring us back to reason. Pen and paper and store any excess documentation in sealed compartments on the moon.

[walrus]

I don't even own a cell phone yet because I feel like I don't need it (and in Canada we have the highest prices in the world for a contract, thanks to our monopolistic market) so I don't even see the use of such watch. I mean, to me, it simply looks like an iphone you can't call with with a smaller screen and attached to my wrist.

Fuck it.

Dude you rock, no cell phone, that is the shit

[walrus]

You seem a little different in that regard though, Walrus. You are not wearing it as a seduction device or saying to people 'Look at my watch, now kneel before me'. You just seem to have a thing for watches and collect them and that's perhaps a different thing.

Do you really own Apple shares though?

No different than Gold. They are both morally indefensible, unethical investments. People die making or mining them, and you and Walrus profit at their expense. Carry on

I don't know, I see nothing wrong with investing. I'm not Warren Buffet, just a guy trying to make a limited amount of capital grow. I do think Apple does some bs in China and they can certainly afford not to do it. I think most Americans who have ira, 401k and other investment vehicles are in Apple and probably don't even know it. I don't know if you have an invested pension fund in your neck of the woods beanz, I'm jealous if you are able to be secure enough in your future where you don't have to invest. I just want to try to avoid working until I'm 87 if possible. Who knows, the market could tank tomorrow and it would all be for naught. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Beanz]

I don't have a pension fund or excess money to invest.

[Gandalf]

Everyone needs insurance and a backup plan. It is called responsibility. Some of us need to provide our own health protection and retirement. Or else we die or we starve. You keep cash or rely on the government and that is now the biggest lottery of all. Everyone should have a plan b c and d. There is nothing wrong with investing but i draw the line on a lot of investment as it does make me ill. Oil corporations for instance are bad but I drive! Hypocrite! Sure, but I dont have kids. You buggers are the drain, not me! It all ends with me and thats my contribution to an overburdened planet. I drive because I have to, I dont have to invest in the war machine and I dont. I have tried to be responsible. Unethical? I limit my impact.

[Beanz]

Everyone needs insurance and a backup plan. It is called responsibility. Some of us need to provide our own health protection and retirement. Or else we die or we starve. You keep cash or rely on the government and that is now the biggest lottery of all. Everyone should have a plan b c and d. There is nothing wrong with investing but i draw the line on a lot of investment as it does make me ill. Oil corporations for instance are bad but I drive! Hypocrite! Sure, but I dont have kids. You buggers are the drain, not me! It all ends with me and thats my contribution to an overburdened planet. I drive because I have to, I dont have to invest in the war machine and I dont. I have tried to be responsible. Unethical? I limit my impact.

Make your mind up Miles.

"There is nothing wrong with investing but i draw the line on a lot of investment"

First you have a go at people buying their own home

and then it turns out.....you have bought your own home

Then you tell us everyone in the UK are mugs for working basic minimum wage and that you would not be allowed back in if you wanted to

and then it turns out you and your wife were offered a well paid opportunity to do so and you turned it down

Then the tired hoary old chestnut of people having kids being a drain ?

Firstly you don't pay UK tax so nobody is taking your precious money away Mr Scrooge

Secondly both my Kids are grown up and working thereby contributing more than you. I don't have the luxury of a backup plan, but I am not moaning about it. You seem to think the world should all be made up of identikit Miles'. Ok we get that you made the decision not to have kids. Has it made you happy ? All it seems to have done is left you with way too much time on your hands.

Then it turns out despite you sporting the traditional cardigan Sports Jacket wearing Proff look, you don't even wear a watch ! Weirdo