Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

[Beanz]

Hatton. Who knows? He might have been rubbish without that self destructive streak and giving himself a mountain to climb, every pre fight camp.

[Bill Paxtom]

Sonny Liston

The most ungrateful fighter 'ever'.

It came back to bite him in the ass hard.........

Put down the 'J & B Scotch' Sonny.

[AdamGB]

'Ever'
You forgot to put 'ass' in apostrophes.

[Mark TKO]

wouldn't you say Edwin Valero ?

[Beanflicker]

Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.

[TitoFan]

Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.

While I hate to see the great Roberto Duran in the same sentence as James "Fat Ass" Toney, there is a lot of truth to that. Duran had no business ballooning up from lightweight all the way to super middle by the end of his career. His explosive power at lightweight became merely mortal at the higher weights.

However, I have to make an important distinction between the two. Toney ballooned up into the open-ended division that is heavyweight, the trash bin of all those pudgy, blubbery, out-of-shape clowns that think that just because they hit hard, they can compete as heavyweight boxers. I'll say this: Duran at super middle still looked somewhat as an athlete. Toney looked like a sumo wrestler with boxing gloves.

[Bill Paxtom]

'Ever'
I forgot to put my mouth on your 'ass' in apostrophes.

John Conteh

He was a basket-case.

[Master]

'Ever'
I forgot to put my mouth on your 'ass' in apostrophes.

John Conteh

He was a basket-case.

He was talented but liked the champagne lifestyle not mad.

[AdamGB]

Why would you want a man's mouth on your arse Bill?
Nobody wants to know what you get 'up' to on a 'weekend' ~ Rocky Marciano's roommate's piano tuner 1837

[Primo Carnera]

'Ever'
You forgot to put 'ass' in apostrophes.

Haha. Your "pet hate".😄

[Beanflicker]

While I hate to see the great Roberto Dura in the same sentence as James "Fat Ass" Toney, there is a lot of truth to that. Duran had no business ballooning up from lightweight all the way to super middle by the end of his career. His explosive power at lightweight became merely mortal at the higher weights.

However, I have to make an important distinction between the two. Toney ballooned up into the open-ended division that is heavyweight, the trash bin of all those pudgy, blubbery, out-of-shape clowns that think that just because they hit hard, they can compete as heavyweight boxers. I'll say this: Duran at super middle still looked somewhat as an athlete. Toney looked like a sumo wrestler with boxing gloves.

Give James his due, he fought and whipped a lot of in shape, scary HWs. Destroyed Holyfield and tore up a 260lb Sam Peter back when he was knocking everyone out, and got robbed on the decision. 25 years, almost 100 fights, middleweight to heavyweight, never stopped, never quit. I think you can mention James' name in the same sentence with anyone.

[holmcall]

wouldn't you say Edwin Valero ?

Yes, actually I would at that!

[Max Power]

Mike Tyson..

Had he remained focussed and on track, he may have been the GOAT.

We'll never know!

[beenKOed]

Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.

How about George Foreman for fighting the stupidest fight possible against Ali?

[Master]

Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.

How about George Foreman for fighting the stupidest fight possible against Ali?

He fought stupid most of his fights but very few could take the power.

Benn did the same thing when he fought Watson.