Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

[Ron Swanson]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

[Tam Seddon]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.

[Ron Swanson]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.

I think fans have got caught up in the sales pitch "history" "titles" "champion". It all matters in a look at my left hand while I lift your wallet with my right sort of way. But in true sport, true competition titles and defenses mean nothing when compared to quality of competition. One good opponent trumps 10 mediocre opponents. SRL is a legend, an all time great, he fought like 6 great fighters. Not 20. But those 6 were so damn good that he will always be known for taking on greats. Nobody cares about his 5 division titles or unifying or or or. At it's core it's about who you fight and that is all.

[Spicoli]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.

I think fans have got caught up in the sales pitch "history" "titles" "champion". It all matters in a look at my left hand while I lift your wallet with my right sort of way. But in true sport, true competition titles and defenses mean nothing when compared to quality of competition. One good opponent trumps 10 mediocre opponents. SRL is a legend, an all time great, he fought like 6 great fighters. Not 20. But those 6 were so damn good that he will always be known for taking on greats. Nobody cares about his 5 division titles or unifying or or or. At it's core it's about who you fight and that is all.

Agreed on the root needing to be quality over quantity, who you fought and how it went that truly makes a great rather than stacking numbers and collecting trinkets. I think a great needs to still be that though when matched. But today its the new norm and at the head of what networks obsess with. A perfect case today is Broner, he now boasts as being a 4 division champ, manufactured 4 division champ, but still among De La Hoya, Jones jr, Whitaker on and on. Its comical. Even Leonard cared enough to have Lalonde..the champion..boil down below lt hvy limit and make him a two division titlist in one night. A literal buy one get one free.

[Spicoli]

17 divisions are enough, the limits should have to be there champion and challenger alike. What happened to guys just stepping up Step up or shut up. Now its done it baby steps and Canelo is a perfect example. The same guy who had to hoodwink and change a tune up with Angulo into a special clause with 155 bs.

[Gandalf]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

I don't see GGG calling down Ward to fight at 161 pounds later on. He would be laughed at and rightly so.

[Ron Swanson]

If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.

I don't see GGG calling down Ward to fight at 161 pounds later on. He would be laughed at and rightly so.

He asked Ward to cut 8lbs from his previous fight. Canelo isn't asking GGG to cut nearly as much.

Both of us can make arguments based on facts where both arguments have weight. Point is both didn't want to fight a man. That is the crux of it. Both could take a tough fight, both don't want to. The same

[Gandalf]

Fair enough, they are both up to it. Hang them all sayeth the French on the eve of all things revolutionary.

[imp]

Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

[Tam Seddon]

Sanchez: GGG wants the WBC belt, Cotto / Canelo not the priority | World Boxing News


Sanchez says Canelo has the advantage in the fight because of youth...What if he boxed GGG? They are similar ages him and Cotto lol.

[TitoFan]

Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.

[Beanz]

Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.

The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

[TitoFan]

Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.

The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

I agree they should fight GGG at 160, no less. But I wouldn't blame Cotto for relinquishing the MW title which technically is not really a MW title at all, because Cotto has absolutely no business at 160. Canelo, on the other hand, belongs at 160 and will eventually be bigger than that. Shades of Chavez Jr. For Canelo not to fight GGG would be exponentially worse than for Cotto not to fight GGG.

[TitoFan]

Here's more moonwalking by Canelo:


Canelo: When I Decide To Go 160, I'll Face The Best - Boxing News



Pleeeease.
That, and $3 will buy me a caffe latte at Starbucks.

[Beanz]

Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.

The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

I agree they should fight GGG at 160, no less. But I wouldn't blame Cotto for relinquishing the MW title which technically is not really a MW title at all, because Cotto has absolutely no business at 160. Canelo, on the other hand, belongs at 160 and will eventually be bigger than that. Shades of Chavez Jr. For Canelo not to fight GGG would be exponentially worse than for Cotto not to fight GGG.

Actually it would be Canelo's first attempt at Khazak dodging MW shenanigans, and Cotto's second, so the exponential factor could only be fairly attributed to Cotto who would be in your words, "exponentially worse" than the Cinnamon Kid.