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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I've never been sure what to make of Marciano, part of me thinks he's was over-rated but then another part of me thinks he was under-rated. I mean - He did destroy Joe Louis, yeah Louis was past his prime, but even an over the hill Joe Louis was still a helluva fighter and he was unbeaten and he did beat everyone in his era.

    I think he was caught between two stools, to young to fight a prime Louis and retired before Liston and Ali.

    Prime for Prime ? I'd have to go with Ali. I think from youtube clips I've seen of Rocky, he would have been to slow and a prime Ali, would stayed on the outside, winging and slashing punches at him and busting him up and maybe causing a cut stoppage. But if Marciano, were able to close the range and find his shots, or leap in and catch Ali then that could have been interesting.

    But Ali had a cast iron jaw, so he would not have crumbled. Marciano didn't hit as hard as Foreman and from what I have seen of him, he did not have the bobbing head movement and speed of a Frazier. But this is all speculation. It's always hard to compare great fighters from different eras
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    Something to consider...
    M arciano would shade to his right. Frazier, to line up his hook, went to his left. Much easier to hit Frazier than M arciano. Also Ali didn't fight much going to his right; like most jab and move guys he follows his lead foot.
    He could do that with Frazier and move away from Frazier's hook. If he moves left with the rock he moves to rocky's right. If Ali moves to his own right he kills his own jab.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Something to consider...
    M arciano would shade to his right. Frazier, to line up his hook, went to his left. Much easier to hit Frazier than M arciano. Also Ali didn't fight much going to his right; like most jab and move guys he follows his lead foot.
    He could do that with Frazier and move away from Frazier's hook. If he moves left with the rock he moves to rocky's right. If Ali moves to his own right he kills his own jab.
    styles make fights. This would have been a shocker. Ali would have been FUCKED if he fought Marciano.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Something to consider...
    M arciano would shade to his right. Frazier, to line up his hook, went to his left. Much easier to hit Frazier than M arciano. Also Ali didn't fight much going to his right; like most jab and move guys he follows his lead foot.
    He could do that with Frazier and move away from Frazier's hook. If he moves left with the rock he moves to rocky's right. If Ali moves to his own right he kills his own jab.
    styles make fights. This would have been a shocker. Ali would have been FUCKED if he fought Marciano.
    Greynotsoold is just asking us to consider something it does not mean he think Rocky would beat Ali.

    Anyway we have established that Bruno and Audley would have beaten Rocky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Something to consider...
    M arciano would shade to his right. Frazier, to line up his hook, went to his left. Much easier to hit Frazier than M arciano. Also Ali didn't fight much going to his right; like most jab and move guys he follows his lead foot.
    He could do that with Frazier and move away from Frazier's hook. If he moves left with the rock he moves to rocky's right. If Ali moves to his own right he kills his own jab.
    styles make fights. This would have been a shocker. Ali would have been FUCKED if he fought Marciano.
    Greynotsoold is just asking us to consider something it does not mean he think Rocky would beat Ali.

    Anyway we have established that Bruno and Audley would have beaten Rocky.
    And Master is pixie mazed

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post


    I agree with every word al spokenin this video.
    You say tomato,
    ‘n I say …… it correctly.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Something to consider...
    M arciano would shade to his right. Frazier, to line up his hook, went to his left. Much easier to hit Frazier than M arciano. Also Ali didn't fight much going to his right; like most jab and move guys he follows his lead foot.
    He could do that with Frazier and move away from Frazier's hook. If he moves left with the rock he moves to rocky's right. If Ali moves to his own right he kills his own jab.
    styles make fights. This would have been a shocker. Ali would have been FUCKED if he fought Marciano.
    Greynotsoold is just asking us to consider something it does not mean he think Rocky would beat Ali.

    Anyway we have established that Bruno and Audley would have beaten Rocky.
    And Master is pixie mazed
    Pixilated!

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Master is "pixxed"

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Rocky did come up from below too ko Joe Louis though! http://www.sugarboxing.com/wp-conten...xample-001.gif

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    Ali would not be able to hit Marciano with the jab or the hook.

    Marciano is all wrong for Ali

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Ali toyed with the best hev division in history.
    Marciano struggled in the worst.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    I agree. Ali would not have connected one jab on Marciano.




























    He would've connected several hundred jabs on Marciano.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Look i love Rocky and all but his face would of looked like a bloody Vag after Ali pounded his face. I mean the speed and the reach would be to much of a disadvantage Rocky not a heavyweight really. I mean Ali had a 15 inch reach advantage and about 20 pounds on him not same weight class.

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Look i love Rocky and all but his face would of looked like a bloody Vag after Ali pounded his face. I mean the speed and the reach would be to much of a disadvantage Rocky not a heavyweight really. I mean Ali had a 15 inch reach advantage and about 20 pounds on him not same weight class.
    Yup.

    The man struggled with a post Baroudi Ezzard Charles in a fight that would have been stopped in any era that follwed and was thorougly outboxed from pillar to post by a 50 year old Walcott. The punch he landed on Walcott to save the day would have never landed on Ali because Ali never hunched over and walked into a punch like that in his lifetime. And the mary's that he landed late in the Charles fight would have found nothing but air against Ali. I respect what Rocky accomplished and all but damn....

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    Default Re: Rocky Marciano on Ali: "In my prime I woulda killed him"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Ali would not be able to hit Marciano with the jab or the hook.

    Marciano is all wrong for Ali
    If Ali had to choose a great champion to fight Rocky would be his choice as he would have been the easiest one for him.
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