Marquez - Cotto @ a Catchweight of 147-150 ?

[Spicoli]

Ruslan Provodnikov at welter being mentioned

Why can't Cotto shoot his last bolt at jr middleweight ffs?

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In fairness, who is at junior middle that wouldn't be a nightmare for Cotto? If you look at the top 10 rankings literally all of them could well beat him. I agree Provodnikov is a bit of a cherry pick, but then again Cotto doesn't have a title or anything, and it could still turn out to be a hell of a fight if he's not totally up for it.

[fan johnny]

For real?

[Master]

For real?

No, hypothetical thread.

[TitoFan]

In fairness, who is at junior middle that wouldn't be a nightmare for Cotto? If you look at the top 10 rankings literally all of them could well beat him. I agree Provodnikov is a bit of a cherry pick, but then again Cotto doesn't have a title or anything, and it could still turn out to be a hell of a fight if he's not totally up for it.

Other than Trout, who already beat him, or Lara, who is a stylistic matchup nightmare for many fighters, I don't see too many names in there that would trouble Cotto very much. He's closing out his career, so I don't see him fighting anyone who doesn't have a big name attached to him. It's a luxury afforded to every great fighter approaching retirement, so why should Cotto be any different?

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I was thinking Charlo, Demetrius Andrade. Not knocking Cotto at all, half of it is those wouldn't even be big scalps for him, I'm all for him taking on an easier fight or two to go out on. If he makes Provodnikov come up in weight much though, it's a bit pointless imo, although it would still be a fun fight.

[J_Undisputed]

I was thinking Charlo, Demetrius Andrade. Not knocking Cotto at all, half of it is those wouldn't even be big scalps for him, I'm all for him taking on an easier fight or two to go out on. If he makes Provodnikov come up in weight much though, it's a bit pointless imo, although it would still be a fun fight.

I agree. Good options. I think the only reason provo is getting called up is because Canelo destroyed any credibility left in beating kirkland with that massacre. Same type of fight at middle. Only provo coming up, has been through a few wars and used to train at the wild card (joel diaz won't change much--probably nil this soon) so they have the blue print on him already. All that becomes a rather disappointing reason to give him 16 mil (isnt that cottos going rate with roc nation for a fight) for beating provo at middle.

[Spicoli]

I was thinking Charlo, Demetrius Andrade. Not knocking Cotto at all, half of it is those wouldn't even be big scalps for him, I'm all for him taking on an easier fight or two to go out on. If he makes Provodnikov come up in weight much though, it's a bit pointless imo, although it would still be a fun fight.

That's kinda what I was thinking. It'll be trumped up into some absurd CW for an already smaller guy and non welterweight coming off some serious wars and Provo being seen and already a bit known is the only selling point I see. I just think a guy who cannot compete at the weight where he just held a title and won't even attempt decent comp a division below should be done with the sport. I'd say Trout as he's been hurt badly a couple fights ago and Cotto thinking revenge factor while facing legit top ten 154 comp. Buy he is with Emperor Haymon, so highly unlikely. Cotto is ranked 154, he needs to fight there otherwise its again turned into divas just shaking the money tree while actually achieving little. That's said nothing is confirmed, we'll have to see.

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I was thinking Charlo, Demetrius Andrade. Not knocking Cotto at all, half of it is those wouldn't even be big scalps for him, I'm all for him taking on an easier fight or two to go out on. If he makes Provodnikov come up in weight much though, it's a bit pointless imo, although it would still be a fun fight.

That's kinda what I was thinking. It'll be trumped up into some absurd CW for an already smaller guy and non welterweight coming off some serious wars and Provo being seen and already a bit known is the only selling point I see. I just think a guy who cannot compete at the weight where he just held a title and won't even attempt decent comp a division below should be done with the sport. I'd say Trout as he's been hurt badly a couple fights ago and Cotto thinking revenge factor while facing legit top ten 154 comp. Buy he is with Emperor Haymon, so highly unlikely. Cotto is ranked 154, he needs to fight there otherwise its again turned into divas just shaking the money tree while actually achieving little. That's said nothing is confirmed, we'll have to see.

Agreed, for me Cotto has paid his dues and can be a diva, great career and been a really fun fighter to watch for as long as I've been into boxing. I've picked wrongly against him a whole bunch of times, but I give myself credit for calling that Martinez was a sitting duck, seem to remember debating you on that point come to think

Just saying fighting Provo at anything above welter(which it would be) is a bit lame and has a sideshow feel. Why not fight Brandon Rios at 155 Not much of a match up unless there is a big change in form from both guys, Cotto will win it however he wants.