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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    GGG MUST forget about the fight, if Jacobs don't step up, forget about the MW's as well and go to SMW. End of.
    What is up at SMW that is appealing for GGG? Nothing.
    you're crazy right?
    Sturm/De Carolis - World Champions, chance to be a 2 weight World Champion. Should be enough money to tempt either of them.
    Badou Jack - World Champion , Floyd has said Jack would fight him.
    Degale - World Champion , easy money and good money. if he's got the balls.
    Ramirez - World champion and at least as much money as fighting Jacobs.
    Groves - Despite not being a World Champ, good money. not sure he'd be that keen seeing as GGG already broke his ribs. but hey, that's only sparring.
    Callum Smith - ditto. Doubt whether Matchroom would go down this route , they want him to be a World title holder. Stylistically and size wise, not a good fight for GGG, could be interesting.
    Chavez Jr. - if they ever managed to get this twat in the ring, very good money, doubt Chavez would take it.
    Abraham - Milk the golden egg one last time.
    you could even add the Dirrells to that list, and they might make decent money.

    What is there at MW?
    Jacobs - he SAYS he wants it. we'll see.
    BJS & Eubank - both a pair of loud mouthed chicken shit time wasters who don't deserve a chance to earn that money.
    so like I said, if they can't get Jacobs to commit, Go up.
    What is there at MW? More money, more trinkets and more prestige.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Well, least he has the other one so he can avoid reverting back to a pacifier. Canelo wants zero to do with Golovkin. Clear as day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    GGG MUST forget about the fight, if Jacobs don't step up, forget about the MW's as well and go to SMW. End of.
    What is up at SMW that is appealing for GGG? Nothing.
    you're crazy right?
    Sturm/De Carolis - World Champions, chance to be a 2 weight World Champion. Should be enough money to tempt either of them.
    Badou Jack - World Champion , Floyd has said Jack would fight him.
    Degale - World Champion , easy money and good money. if he's got the balls.
    Ramirez - World champion and at least as much money as fighting Jacobs.
    Groves - Despite not being a World Champ, good money. not sure he'd be that keen seeing as GGG already broke his ribs. but hey, that's only sparring.
    Callum Smith - ditto. Doubt whether Matchroom would go down this route , they want him to be a World title holder. Stylistically and size wise, not a good fight for GGG, could be interesting.
    Chavez Jr. - if they ever managed to get this twat in the ring, very good money, doubt Chavez would take it.
    Abraham - Milk the golden egg one last time.
    you could even add the Dirrells to that list, and they might make decent money.

    What is there at MW?
    Jacobs - he SAYS he wants it. we'll see.
    BJS & Eubank - both a pair of loud mouthed chicken shit time wasters who don't deserve a chance to earn that money.
    so like I said, if they can't get Jacobs to commit, Go up.
    What is there at MW? More money, more trinkets and more prestige.
    I can't agree with the above.
    More money - I don't think so . Look at the options and the names in the SMW Division.
    More Trinkets - again, wrong. He has nearly all the titles at MW already, but he's got all of the SMW Trinkets to go for.
    More Prestige - the days when the MW Division was the Blue Riband division of Boxing have long gone, it hasn't existed for decades.
    Historically the MW Div was the prestige division because it was the average persons build , so everyone could aspire to it and more people would compete at that weight. But in the last 50 years, Man has evolved into a much bigger individual. That's the whole reason why the SMW and CW Divisions were created.
    You're clutching at straws here mate.😉

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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    GGG MUST forget about the fight, if Jacobs don't step up, forget about the MW's as well and go to SMW. End of.
    What is up at SMW that is appealing for GGG? Nothing.
    you're crazy right?
    Sturm/De Carolis - World Champions, chance to be a 2 weight World Champion. Should be enough money to tempt either of them.
    Badou Jack - World Champion , Floyd has said Jack would fight him.
    Degale - World Champion , easy money and good money. if he's got the balls.
    Ramirez - World champion and at least as much money as fighting Jacobs.
    Groves - Despite not being a World Champ, good money. not sure he'd be that keen seeing as GGG already broke his ribs. but hey, that's only sparring.
    Callum Smith - ditto. Doubt whether Matchroom would go down this route , they want him to be a World title holder. Stylistically and size wise, not a good fight for GGG, could be interesting.
    Chavez Jr. - if they ever managed to get this twat in the ring, very good money, doubt Chavez would take it.
    Abraham - Milk the golden egg one last time.
    you could even add the Dirrells to that list, and they might make decent money.

    What is there at MW?
    Jacobs - he SAYS he wants it. we'll see.
    BJS & Eubank - both a pair of loud mouthed chicken shit time wasters who don't deserve a chance to earn that money.
    so like I said, if they can't get Jacobs to commit, Go up.
    What is there at MW? More money, more trinkets and more prestige.
    I can't agree with the above.
    More money - I don't think so . Look at the options and the names in the SMW Division.
    More Trinkets - again, wrong. He has nearly all the titles at MW already, but he's got all of the SMW Trinkets to go for.
    More Prestige - the days when the MW Division was the Blue Riband division of Boxing have long gone, it hasn't existed for decades.
    Historically the MW Div was the prestige division because it was the average persons build , so everyone could aspire to it and more people would compete at that weight. But in the last 50 years, Man has evolved into a much bigger individual. That's the whole reason why the SMW and CW Divisions were created.
    You're clutching at straws here mate.😉
    You are missing the point of boxing which is to maximise the income for the least risk. Canelo is the big fat goose that needs executing.
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    So what is he to do till 2019? Or sometime never? Scratch his ass and wait? Canelo ain't happening anytme soon.

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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    So what is he to do till 2019? Or sometime never? Scratch his ass and wait? Canelo ain't happening anytme soon.
    Jacob, BJS and even the idiot Eubank Junior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    So what is he to do till 2019? Or sometime never? Scratch his ass and wait? Canelo ain't happening anytme soon.
    Jacob, BJS and even the idiot Eubank Junior
    1. They don't want it, none of them. They've all been offered it in the past.
    2. It won't improve his legacy in the eyes of the haters.
    3. Canelo is clearly waiting till GGG is too old. And he'll be closer to 40 by the time they're talking about.
    4. Oscar doesn't want it. And if Oscar doesn't want it, Canelo doesn't want it. Oscar can't risk killing the golden goose.
    5.GGG will be retired by then.
    It's definitely time to forget about Canelo. And when he does, you watch, it'll be Canelo that runs out of opponents.

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    For the record GGG has a contract for a Canelo fight at 160 next fall for 10 million and PPV upside.

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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    GGG MUST forget about the fight, if Jacobs don't step up, forget about the MW's as well and go to SMW. End of.
    What is up at SMW that is appealing for GGG? Nothing.
    you're crazy right?
    Sturm/De Carolis - World Champions, chance to be a 2 weight World Champion. Should be enough money to tempt either of them.
    Badou Jack - World Champion , Floyd has said Jack would fight him.
    Degale - World Champion , easy money and good money. if he's got the balls.
    Ramirez - World champion and at least as much money as fighting Jacobs.
    Groves - Despite not being a World Champ, good money. not sure he'd be that keen seeing as GGG already broke his ribs. but hey, that's only sparring.
    Callum Smith - ditto. Doubt whether Matchroom would go down this route , they want him to be a World title holder. Stylistically and size wise, not a good fight for GGG, could be interesting.
    Chavez Jr. - if they ever managed to get this twat in the ring, very good money, doubt Chavez would take it.
    Abraham - Milk the golden egg one last time.
    you could even add the Dirrells to that list, and they might make decent money.

    What is there at MW?
    Jacobs - he SAYS he wants it. we'll see.
    BJS & Eubank - both a pair of loud mouthed chicken shit time wasters who don't deserve a chance to earn that money.
    so like I said, if they can't get Jacobs to commit, Go up.
    What is there at MW? More money, more trinkets and more prestige.
    I can't agree with the above.
    More money - I don't think so . Look at the options and the names in the SMW Division.
    More Trinkets - again, wrong. He has nearly all the titles at MW already, but he's got all of the SMW Trinkets to go for.
    More Prestige - the days when the MW Division was the Blue Riband division of Boxing have long gone, it hasn't existed for decades.
    Historically the MW Div was the prestige division because it was the average persons build , so everyone could aspire to it and more people would compete at that weight. But in the last 50 years, Man has evolved into a much bigger individual. That's the whole reason why the SMW and CW Divisions were created.
    You're clutching at straws here mate.������
    Agree with most of this, but just to nitpick, I'd say welterweight has always been the prestige division for the reasons you say. There are still and I believe have almost always been more active pros competing there than any other weight class by a good margin. When you consider how far from fighting shape the average person is and what fighters put into cutting weight, that's still closer to the average guys build.

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    I feel like I led everyone astray with my post. There is no confirmation that they won't fight until 2019 but I would guess it will get pushed back until then. I can't imagine his original date for next September being in play and I'm sure that he is only going to fight once before then. And he will want a fight with him probably around the same time so I would guess may 2018 at the absolute earliest but I don't think that happens.

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    Also, I think GGG moves up before the fight happens. He will get a bigger offer at SMW and take a fight there and then stay there.

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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    Its ok he can sword fight Eubank jnr he has tennis elbow and is out too
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    Default Re: Canelo breaks his thumb and is out for rest of 2016

    It's not a serious injury, he will be pretty ok by beginning of 2017. As to fight GGG, if he REALLY wants it, I'd bet something around mid March, that would be realistic. GGG could easily pick up a tune up fight in the meantime, just to stay active. #hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    If GGG is anything like Hopkins then it will be a long wait for him to get old..If it's 2019 for Canelo then it looks as though GGG would have moved up by then or even retired..!GGG vs Jacobs? - Dec 2016GGG vs Eubanks? - May 2017GGG vs Saunders? - Sep 2017GGG vs Brook 2? - Dec 2017GGG vs 168? - 2018GGG vs Ward - 2019
    Sadly, no one is like Hopkins.Even now he could cut through Canelo like carving up a cake.Sir Bernard the bold!(Game of thrones reference)

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    I feel like I led everyone astray with my post. There is no confirmation that they won't fight until 2019 but I would guess it will get pushed back until then. I can't imagine his original date for next September being in play and I'm sure that he is only going to fight once before then. And he will want a fight with him probably around the same time so I would guess may 2018 at the absolute earliest but I don't think that happens.
    Worry not squire I took your original post as was intended

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