What will Clinch-ko's legacy be?

[El Kabong]

Yes exactly, and people picked up on his fearfulness. That's why the HW division became irrelevant IMO

The HW champion is supposed to be society's ideal alpha man. Joe Louis, Marciano, Ali, Tyson, etc. These were men who instilled fear in people, they were looked at as apex predators.

The public saw Wlad for the scared man he was and his fearful way of fighting, and they laughed and moved on.

Yeah, a cowardly lion that wins 83% of his fights by KO

Fucking ridiculous.


Ah yes, wasn't Ali the guy leaning back on the ropes covered up all the time? Such courage, such grace, to just sit back and let guys wing punches at you.....OOOOOH AAAAAHHHHH AMAZING!!!



Laughed? They filled the stadiums for him....laughed. horseshit

[El Kabong]

Here's a guy who didn't mind getting smacked upside the head with a few punches



He's 49 and you can just barely understand him. But hey, what a champ....how long was his prime? MAYBE 2-3 years......well he chose real wisely didn't he?

[vidgil]

Yeah, a cowardly lion that wins 83% of his fights by KO

Fucking ridiculous.


Ah yes, wasn't Ali the guy leaning back on the ropes covered up all the time? Such courage, such grace, to just sit back and let guys wing punches at you.....OOOOOH AAAAAHHHHH AMAZING!!!



Laughed? They filled the stadiums for him....laughed. horseshit

Well there is no doubt Wlad can punch hard and KO people (thanks in great part to "German engineering" ).

But he was allowed to hold and grab and lean on guys and that sucks your power away. Then he would finish them in later rounds.

The great MMA fighter Randy Couture made a career out of grabbing guys, making them carry his weight and wearing them out. But he was allowed to do that - it was MMA and wrestling is allowed!

Boxing is supposed to be "hand to hand" combat. To Wlad, it was "hand to hug" combat

[El Kabong]

Well there is no doubt Wlad can punch hard and KO people (thanks in great part to "German engineering" ).

But he was allowed to hold and grab and lean on guys and that sucks your power away. Then he would finish them in later rounds.

The great MMA fighter Randy Couture made a career out of grabbing guys, making them carry his weight and wearing them out. But he was allowed to do that - it was MMA and wrestling is allowed!

Boxing is supposed to be "hand to hand" combat. To Wlad, it was "hand to hug" combat

"German engineering".....so is that a jab at Klitschko using steroids for which he has NEVER tested positive for? That what that is?

OH and just how fucking often must I say this...."IF THE REF DOESN'T CALL IT A FOUL, IT'S NOT A FOUL" doesn't matter what sport it is, doesn't matter what happened, doesn't fucking matter.....Allow me to show you EXHIBIT FUCKING A for this

Roberto Duran wins by KO with a punch to the nuts


The last part you're just salty about a guy winning his way....."but but but but"....shut up and win the fucking fight and if you can't then just shut up. I didn't like John Ruiz, but the dude won and you can't take it away from him. I don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr. but he won fights and you can't take it away from him.


Get this through your skull, fighters bend the rules ALL THE TIME: Holyfield headbutts, Hopkins headbutts, Tyson elbows, Rocky would hit you anywhere at any time...on the canvas he'd crack you there too, have a problem with holding Muhammad Ali held all the fucking time.....oh but see that was different he gloated and hot dogged when he held, that's different