Garcia vs Porter on Sept 8 for the vacant WBC welterweight belt

[Alpha]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

[Master]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

[powerpuncher]

Thurman did fight some good fighters, but he wasn’t willing to fight Spence. Plain and simple. Thurman fought both Porter and Garcia which were legit fights. I just doubt that Thurman ever fights Spence.

[Spicoli]

Thurman did fight some good fighters, but he wasn’t willing to fight Spence. Plain and simple. Thurman fought both Porter and Garcia which were legit fights. I just doubt that Thurman ever fights Spence.

I don't see it. He's watching the division literally pass him by and seems perfectly content to do so. I see he got married, that's great. But stop popping off about "he's never faced a fighter like me" when the ring is the last thing on your mind.

[Alpha]

His has stuttered his career momentum, he was at the top of the hill but now is kind of irrelevant. And he's talking a comeback fight or 3? He can still make at least 1 big payday but I feel he is no longer in the mix at the top of the division, as we don't know when he'll be back and what he'll look like.

[powerpuncher]

The more I think about Thurman, the more strange I think his antics have been. He was known as the man at welter and many “experts” had him in their top 5 p4p (I never had him that high). Then he completely ducks the up and coming fighter and becomes irrelevant by not fighting.

It’s weird because he now has to earn HIS shot at Spence or Crawford. Not the other way around.

[Alpha]

Thurman was named champion emeritus by the WBC, so he can technically demand a shot at the title when he wants.

I personally think he wants to go the route of Bradley and get an announcing position.

[Ron Swanson]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

I didn't forget anything. You didn't say he fought bigger fights. You said "better and bigger fighters" so I asked what better or bigger fighter he has beaten. I'll ask again, what better or bigger fighter has he beaten?

[Ron Swanson]

The more I think about Thurman, the more strange I think his antics have been. He was known as the man at welter and many “experts” had him in their top 5 p4p (I never had him that high). Then he completely ducks the up and coming fighter and becomes irrelevant by not fighting.

It’s weird because he now has to earn HIS shot at Spence or Crawford. Not the other way around.

Even when he got to the top he didn't prove he was the top guy by beating the other best guy. Or even best guys. May, Pac, didn't beat them. The other next top guy Brook, didn't beat him. Thurman was named the top guy by beating more of the 2nd tier than Brook. That hardly proves you are actually top. Brook would have jumped at a Garcia fight just like everyone else does if he got the chance. And Brook would have beaten Garcia too. Probably more clearly than Thurman did also. I'm not saying that Brook necessarily beats Thurman, we don't know because they didn't fight.

[Master]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

I didn't forget anything. You didn't say he fought bigger fights. You said "better and bigger fighters" so I asked what better or bigger fighter he has beaten. I'll ask again, what better or bigger fighter has he beaten?

At the time Garcia and Porter.

[Ron Swanson]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

I didn't forget anything. You didn't say he fought bigger fights. You said "better and bigger fighters" so I asked what better or bigger fighter he has beaten. I'll ask again, what better or bigger fighter has he beaten?

At the time Garcia and Porter.

Do you understand English?

[Master]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

I didn't forget anything. You didn't say he fought bigger fights. You said "better and bigger fighters" so I asked what better or bigger fighter he has beaten. I'll ask again, what better or bigger fighter has he beaten?

At the time Garcia and Porter.

Do you understand English?

Do you? I said at the time...

[imp]

Retiring undefeated if your Keith Thurman means nothing if you don’t fight the best in your weight class.

Thurman just gave away the best belt out of the four and continues to sit on the sidelines until Spence fights Crawford or moves up to 154..fighters like this should be fined for refusing to fight the best and blow minor elbow injuries out of proportion that should keep you out of action for a maximum of 8 weeks!

Garcia beats Porter then hopefully Spence vs Garcia end of the year or Feb 2019..

[Ron Swanson]

It is blatantly obvious that Thurman wanted no part of Spence. I have no idea what he will do, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a time up then loses a close decision to the winner of the Garcia and Porter fight then retire. He doesn’t want to get embarrassed by Spence or Crawford.

I tried telling Master that like 3 years ago. Some day he'll start to listen.

Thurman was otherwise engaged beating better and bigger fighters at the time.

Pray tell which fighters better and bigger than Spence he has beaten.

To be fair the Garcia fight was a unification, but he only just scraped by Porter.

Ronnie conveniently forgets these things with his hate of all things Thurman.

I didn't forget anything. You didn't say he fought bigger fights. You said "better and bigger fighters" so I asked what better or bigger fighter he has beaten. I'll ask again, what better or bigger fighter has he beaten?

At the time Garcia and Porter.

Do you understand English?

Do you? I said at the time...

So you are saying at the time 5’7 Shawn Porter was bigger, 5’8 and 1/2 Danny Garcia was bigger than the 5’9 and 1/2 Errol Spence? Or you are saying they were better at the time?

[Master]

Better and bigger in terms of names at the time.