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    Default Boxing lost value by not having Wilder v Joshua when we wanted it

    I said it, the revenue that fight would have generated 5 years ago would have been monsterous. It would have helped a venue, helped the undercard fighters, helped the promoters to find and develop new talent and would have been good for whatever network that wanted it. Not that Wilder or Joshua would have been the guy to pin your hopes on 5 years after the fight, but for the fact that fans- legit and casuals- wanted it badly at that time.

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    Default Re: Boxing lost value by not having Wilder v Joshua when we wanted it

    As heavyweight fights go that would have been a huge unification of power punchers.

    Big fights do not always happen. Plenty of examples of that in the history of the game.
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    I Don’t get this “Missed opportunity “ line that is reeled out.
    I think time and hindsight has shown us that we didn’t miss out on anything special.
    Wilder was always overrated and the reason he wasn’t exposed any earlier is because he was never put in with an opponent to expose him.
    Let’s be honest, Fury’s comeback and losing 140lbs etc. was amazing. But if Wilder was anywhere near the fighter he was hyped up to be, he should be able to deal with that.
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    Default Re: Boxing lost value by not having Wilder v Joshua when we wanted it

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I Don’t get this “Missed opportunity “ line that is reeled out.
    I think time and hindsight has shown us that we didn’t miss out on anything special.
    Wilder was always overrated and the reason he wasn’t exposed any earlier is because he was never put in with an opponent to expose him.
    Let’s be honest, Fury’s comeback and losing 140lbs etc. was amazing. But if Wilder was anywhere near the fighter he was hyped up to be, he should be able to deal with that.
    The possible fight went beyond just the combatants. But it had to do with the entire event. Plus, the winner would have gone on to have huge endorsements and notoriety and the like. USA v UK is the new Holmes v Cooney or Ali v Wepner/London or Cooper...

    Then as I said the undercard would have been solid and would have made names out of fighters just by being a part of that extravaganza. Don't think so small.

    As we criticize Wilder we can't dismiss Joshua's "hoe" like nature. He was thinking he was more a super model than he was a fighter at that time. We saw he was exposed by Ruiz and by Usyk... He can never beat Usyk. And the only reason he beat Ruiz the second time is because Ruiz came in fat and out of shape and still could not put Ruiz away and he fought a shitty fight. Back in the day, you actually had to beat the champ... not just come in and waltz around and win a sissy decision.
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    Default Re: Boxing lost value by not having Wilder v Joshua when we wanted it

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I Don’t get this “Missed opportunity “ line that is reeled out.
    I think time and hindsight has shown us that we didn’t miss out on anything special.
    Wilder was always overrated and the reason he wasn’t exposed any earlier is because he was never put in with an opponent to expose him.
    Let’s be honest, Fury’s comeback and losing 140lbs etc. was amazing. But if Wilder was anywhere near the fighter he was hyped up to be, he should be able to deal with that.
    The possible fight went beyond just the combatants. But it had to do with the entire event. Plus, the winner would have gone on to have huge endorsements and notoriety and the like. USA v UK is the new Holmes v Cooney or Ali v Wepner/London or Cooper...

    Then as I said the undercard would have been solid and would have made names out of fighters just by being a part of that extravaganza. Don't think so small.

    As we criticize Wilder we can't dismiss Joshua's "hoe" like nature. He was thinking he was more a super model than he was a fighter at that time. We saw he was exposed by Ruiz and by Usyk... He can never beat Usyk. And the only reason he beat Ruiz the second time is because Ruiz came in fat and out of shape and still could not put Ruiz away and he fought a shitty fight. Back in the day, you actually had to beat the champ... not just come in and waltz around and win a sissy decision.


    I agree with the "missed opportunity" angle. Hindsight is 20/20, and now everyone "knows" Wilder was always shet. Except that the Wilder that failed against Fury could've very well knocked Joshua out. Styles make fights. Wilder was still brimming with confidence... and as it turns out Joshua isn't the paragon of invincibility everyone thought he was prior to his knockout loss to fat boy Ruiz.

    Wilder-Joshua at that time would've been massive, regardless of the results. Too bad for boxing it didn't happen.

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    Default Re: Boxing lost value by not having Wilder v Joshua when we wanted it

    “The possible fight went beyond just the combatants”
    “Wilder-Joshua at that time would've been massive, regardless of the results.”
    Ok , so we’re saying hype is more important than the sport now?
    Whatever, let’s just get the Ryan Garcia v Jake Paul fight made immediately before “Boxing suffers real bad”
    Perhaps on the undercard we CAN have Conor Benn v Pacquaio, and Canelo v KSI.
    That card will really recover “Boxing’s value!”
    The sport has gone.
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