Mayweather compared to All time Greats--what do you think?

**Taeth** · 04-13-2006 03:52 AM

I think he is an all-time great and one of the two people IMO that could maybe stand a chance against Roy JOnes Jr. p4p.

**Wacko3205** · 04-13-2006 04:04 AM

Let me say this right here...& as much as I would like to say that I am done...I won't do that again...because as a fan I will defend Floyd Mayweather Jr to the end...even if he get's brutally stopped or whatever...but you can tear apart a fighter from the ground up just as much as you can his opposition...but Floyd is a star & Floyd has beaten some very game names.

Doing such as this to a man that has not been knocked out, stopped, much less rarely has anyone been able to compete with him...it's honestly ridiculous...but people will do what people will do.

It's pretty amazing that many of you are guilty of breaking down the man when you are all about putting someone like Hatton, Judah, Margarito, & so on & so on up on a pedastal...those three names have either not proven themselves yet or been knocked or beaten by lesser caliber fighters...while Floyd has destroyed better men in the ring.

I'm sorry...but it is that way. Granted Hatton has beaten Kostya...but Mayweather has beaten Corrales, Castillo, & Gatti...but those men get taken apart...it's odd enough to say that Kostya was beaten before by lesser gents than Floyd or those that Floyd has beaten.

I won't even get started on Judah or Margarito...but now that Judah was competitive with Floyd for less than half of a fight & Margarito beat Cintron & a few others...Floyd has been downgraded & is scapegoat worthy material for trash talk on his career...

Very funny.

Throw all the light welters & welters out there...there's not a single on that can match Floyd skill for skill. Sure there are those that are more powerful...but none so technically brilliant in the ring.

Yes...as soon as Floyd get's beaten...& he will...they all do...he will be reduced to ridicule & what not just as Jones was.

Ridiculous...but boxing will be boxing as will fans & haters be fans & haters.

**SalTheButcher** · 04-13-2006 04:20 AM

i cant wait till the rematch, when judah beats mayweather, AND YOU WILL VOMIT INTENSE AMOUNTS

**Wacko3205** · 04-13-2006 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

i cant wait till the rematch, when judah beats mayweather, AND YOU WILL VOMIT INTENSE AMOUNTS

You & Judah have forever missed that web-cam show when my boy plastered your boy's lips to his grill.

**gyrokai** · 04-13-2006 04:51 AM

Wacko is right. I can't argue with him outta mad respect. Everytime he comes back with his retort, I admit his argument is always good enough to make me feel guilty.

If Floyd fights Hatton or "Margarita" as he calls him, I will stop drinking a cold glass of "hatorade" as you guys' say. After that fight happens, win or lose, I'll give Mayweather mad props, cause as I said, his latest run isn't "spectacular."

I actually like Floyd. He makes me laugh. Not at him, but if you notice, he's a good comedian. He challenged Spinks face to face shouting "I am the truth!" And he goes to fight Gatti in a King's Throne. haha

That's classic.

It's not like I'm saying,"FLOYD SUCKS! I'M OUTTA HERE!" I'm actually giving reasons and lets face it, if people like me weren't here, who would be telling Mayweather to take on better challenges? I've read boxing writters who simply don't want a repeat of what Jones Jr. did to his career once he stopped taking on tough fights and started acting like a promoter rather than a fighter. Who would be challenging him? Because with his talents, he could probably eat those challenges up, give an excellent show, and go back to his throne.

I just can't say,"Damn that was pound-for-pound action with, Chop Chop and Judah!!!" after what I know about those fighters. I'll save those words for Winky Wright and Manny Pacquiao, for now. But hey, I suppose I'm a critic, a hater. But you know what? I won't be, as soon as Mayweather starts taking on supposed "Kings" of the Division he's invading. Losing isn't that bad. Everybody is obsessed with that stupid "O." Hell, Margarito lost that "O" years ago and I deem him worthy of his defining shot.

As for now, Oscar de la Hoya is a money fight, unless the unprobable happens and he looks spectacular against Mayorga.

I also believe Mayweather is in a position where he has to take on a real big challenge soon.

**gyrokai** · 04-13-2006 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Gyrokai

Wacko is right. I can't argue with him outta mad respect. Everytime he comes back with his retort, I admit his argument is always good enough to make me feel guilty.

If Floyd fights Hatton or "Margarita" as he calls him, I will stop drinking a cold glass of "hatorade" as you guys' say. After that fight happens, win or lose, I'll give Mayweather mad props, cause as I said, his latest run isn't "spectacular."

I actually like Floyd. He makes me laugh. Not at him, but if you notice, he's a good comedian. He challenged Spinks face to face shouting "I am the truth!" And he goes to fight Gatti in a King's Throne. haha

That's classic.

It's not like I'm saying,"FLOYD SUCKS! I'M OUTTA HERE!" I'm actually giving reasons and lets face it, if people like me weren't here, who would be telling Mayweather to take on better challenges? I've read boxing writters who simply don't want a repeat of what Jones Jr. did to his career once he stopped taking on tough fights and started acting like a promoter rather than a fighter. Who would be challenging him? Because with his talents, he could probably eat those challenges up, give an excellent show, and go back to his throne.

I just can't say,"Damn that was pound-for-pound action with, Chop Chop and Judah!!!" after what I know about those fighters. I'll save those words for Winky Wright and Manny Pacquiao, for now. But hey, I suppose I'm a critic, a hater. But you know what? I won't be, as soon as Mayweather starts taking on supposed "Kings" of the Division he's invading. Losing isn't that bad. Everybody is obsessed with that stupid "O." Hell, Margarito lost that "O" years ago and I deem him worthy of his defining shot.

As for now, Oscar de la Hoya is a money fight, unless the unprobable happens and he looks spectacular against Mayorga.

I also believe Mayweather is in a position where he has to take on a real big challenge soon.

Yeah... I'm a bastard. I just have to argue.

**NuthaPug** · 04-13-2006 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

i think he nearly lost to judah

nearly?

Major sea change for Sal!

**chamiley** · 04-13-2006 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Starr

I think Mayweather is extremely talented.

But I think he fought a lot of "names" before they became names and names that were past it.

The Names before they became names "Famoso" Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales(compare his name from then till now), Angel Manfredy had just become a name(but look at him now)

The Names when all they had were names when Mayweather fought them, Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti

Thing is, Mayweather sat on those names once he fought them, and went on to a couple of easy wins.

Now, people accuse Roy Jones Jr of doing this, and try to take away his p4p legitimacy. And I say, if you can do it to Roy Jones Jr, you should do it to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

You can't compare him until he fights what are considered the "lights" of his generation. The Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito's of the world. He never fought a "light" when they were shining as brightly as they would their entire career, which is something they accuse Roy Jones Jr of and they should accuse Floyd Mayweather Jr. with. All those fights stylistically Mayweather has the advantage.

But Floyd Mayweather is obsessed, that his legacy exists on a piece of paper and not in the minds of boxing fans.

In a history book it will Say "Floyd Mayweather, 4 time Champion in 4 weight divisions in under 10 years" But he will not exist that way in the minds of boxing fans.

although I am a floyd fan but there were some things said in this post which I agree with. This is the first time I am somewhat in agreement with Starr.

**Kev** · 04-13-2006 05:41 AM

That was a great and incisive article, I thought PBF was about 7 and a half years as a pro, I didn't realise the clock was ticking so much for him.

I know he wants to be a 5 weight world champ within 10 years so I'm guessing that there answers everyone's questions as to if Mayweather will fight Hatton this year.

He'll be moving up to 154 possibly even for his next fight.

I reckon he will be challenging for a junior world title within 2 fights................

**tarverthewoofer** · 04-13-2006 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Starr

I think Mayweather is extremely talented.

But I think he fought a lot of "names" before they became names and names that were past it.

The Names before they became names "Famoso" Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales(compare his name from then till now), Angel Manfredy had just become a name(but look at him now)

The Names when all they had were names when Mayweather fought them, Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti

Thing is, Mayweather sat on those names once he fought them, and went on to a couple of easy wins.

Now, people accuse Roy Jones Jr of doing this, and try to take away his p4p legitimacy. And I say, if you can do it to Roy Jones Jr, you should do it to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

You can't compare him until he fights what are considered the "lights" of his generation. The Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito's of the world. He never fought a "light" when they were shining as brightly as they would their entire career, which is something they accuse Roy Jones Jr of and they should accuse Floyd Mayweather Jr. with. All those fights stylistically Mayweather has the advantage.

But Floyd Mayweather is obsessed, that his legacy exists on a piece of paper and not in the minds of boxing fans.

In a history book it will Say "Floyd Mayweather, 4 time Champion in 4 weight divisions in under 10 years" But he will not exist that way in the minds of boxing fans.

It's truly difficult to compare Mayweather to boxing greats such as Ali, Ray Leonard, etc., but you have to consider all the boxers he has fought so far in our time. You can definitely argue the fact that the boxers he fought are either past or before their prime. But, this isn't the point: the point is take Mayweathers record and compare it to other fighters in the same time and you can definitely point out this man has fought some tough fighters and remained glorious.

Let's take Hatton, Margarito, or Cotto and look at their record. These guys haven't truly fought as many challenging boxers as Mayweather did. Margarito on the other hand lost over 4 fights according to boxingrec.com. If this is not an indication of Mayweathers superiority, then what is?

Believe it or not, it's only a matter of time before Mayweather get around to fighting Hatton, Margarito, or Cotto, and i can bet my money he will prevail.