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    Default Fury-Chisora II/Billy Joe-Eubank jr

    Well folks we're 11 days away from the big rematch of British heavyweights and it's time to get a little discussion going of who we think is in shape, who we think is ready, and ultimately who we think is going to win this fight. There's a lot on the line, a title shot, a gigantic payday, and the chance for one of these guys to make history.

    3 years ago Dereck Chisora 261 lbs lost a unanimous decision to Tyson Fury 255 1/2 lbs. Fury was a slight underdog, Chisora weighed the heaviest of his career, and this was again a chance to gain some momentum towards a title shot.

    Last fight Chisora weighed in at 238 and beat a crafty Kevin Johnson. Tyson Fury has had a host of family issues to deal with including the death of his former trainer and Uncle Hughie Fury and his wife's recent miscarriage and is apparently broke from postponement after postponement and family issues so expect him to be hungry for the fight.

    I believe we will see more of a brawl and punches thrown with very bad intentions. If Tyson Fury is to win he will need to pump the jab and keep Chisora at bay making Del Boy work for a way inside and if he gets inside Fury will have to either land big or tie up.

    In order for Chisora to win he will have to pour on the pressure, make Tyson brawl and give up his natural height and reach advantages. Chisora will have to be disciplined on defense and counter effectively.

    I believe time waits for no man and especially no man who is a pressure fighter, Tyson Fury wins by TKO in the 8th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Well folks we're 11 days away from the big rematch of British heavyweights and it's time to get a little discussion going of who we think is in shape, who we think is ready, and ultimately who we think is going to win this fight. There's a lot on the line, a title shot, a gigantic payday, and the chance for one of these guys to make history.

    3 years ago Dereck Chisora 261 lbs lost a unanimous decision to Tyson Fury 255 1/2 lbs. Fury was a slight underdog, Chisora weighed the heaviest of his career, and this was again a chance to gain some momentum towards a title shot.

    Last fight Chisora weighed in at 238 and beat a crafty Kevin Johnson. Tyson Fury has had a host of family issues to deal with including the death of his former trainer and Uncle Hughie Fury and his wife's recent miscarriage and is apparently broke from postponement after postponement and family issues so expect him to be hungry for the fight.

    I believe we will see more of a brawl and punches thrown with very bad intentions. If Tyson Fury is to win he will need to pump the jab and keep Chisora at bay making Del Boy work for a way inside and if he gets inside Fury will have to either land big or tie up.

    In order for Chisora to win he will have to pour on the pressure, make Tyson brawl and give up his natural height and reach advantages. Chisora will have to be disciplined on defense and counter effectively.

    I believe time waits for no man and especially no man who is a pressure fighter, Tyson Fury wins by TKO in the 8th.
    Even if Chisora was out of shape, Tyson wasn't in the shape he is now and Chisoras fitness wouldn't have affected him much in the first round. Just watch that round. Tyson controls Chisora quite easy and has a grin on his face.

    A lot of people have invested emotions in to their opinion of Tyson because of the things he says and sometimes how he fights BUT the bigger the risk, the better he box's!

    I believe Chisora was fit last time. His nutrition might not have been what it is now but I don't think he wasn't training hard and wasn't fit. He lasted the 12 at a good pace.

    Tyson stops him early I think. Chisoras looked shaky a few times in his last few fights. Having to go for little walks to break any action. He did it against Johnson in his last fight. The cumulative effect of Tyson, Helenius, Klitschko and Haye has dented Chisoras durability.

    Hopefully this is a breakthrough fight for Tyson, with regards to how he is percieved.

    Haye may have got a very good result against Chisora but up until that point he was having more problems with him than tyson did.

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    Good assessment ross and I think Tyson also has a lot of frustration to let loose and a lot to prove from his long layoff. He can't get lazy, predictable, or take his eyes off the prize here.

    Dereck is a bit mental but also he doesn't offer much in terms of being crafty or cagey. Dereck is just a typical pressure fighter who has little to no power in his punches.

    As a boxing fan, as a fan of the heavyweight division, as a Wladimir Klitschko fan I would like to see Tyson Fury live up to his fullest potential in this fight and just dominate but I want Dereck Chisora to give his all as well because a win over an uninspired Chisora won't get the fans riled up.

    Tyson Fury has the opportunity to be Wladimir's main rival which would be big for boxing in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Well folks we're 11 days away from the big rematch of British heavyweights and it's time to get a little discussion going of who we think is in shape, who we think is ready, and ultimately who we think is going to win this fight. There's a lot on the line, a title shot, a gigantic payday, and the chance for one of these guys to make history.

    3 years ago Dereck Chisora 261 lbs lost a unanimous decision to Tyson Fury 255 1/2 lbs. Fury was a slight underdog, Chisora weighed the heaviest of his career, and this was again a chance to gain some momentum towards a title shot.

    Last fight Chisora weighed in at 238 and beat a crafty Kevin Johnson. Tyson Fury has had a host of family issues to deal with including the death of his former trainer and Uncle Hughie Fury and his wife's recent miscarriage and is apparently broke from postponement after postponement and family issues so expect him to be hungry for the fight.

    I believe we will see more of a brawl and punches thrown with very bad intentions. If Tyson Fury is to win he will need to pump the jab and keep Chisora at bay making Del Boy work for a way inside and if he gets inside Fury will have to either land big or tie up.

    In order for Chisora to win he will have to pour on the pressure, make Tyson brawl and give up his natural height and reach advantages. Chisora will have to be disciplined on defense and counter effectively.

    I believe time waits for no man and especially no man who is a pressure fighter, Tyson Fury wins by TKO in the 8th.
    Even if Chisora was out of shape, Tyson wasn't in the shape he is now and Chisoras fitness wouldn't have affected him much in the first round. Just watch that round. Tyson controls Chisora quite easy and has a grin on his face.

    A lot of people have invested emotions in to their opinion of Tyson because of the things he says and sometimes how he fights BUT the bigger the risk, the better he box's!

    I believe Chisora was fit last time. His nutrition might not have been what it is now but I don't think he wasn't training hard and wasn't fit. He lasted the 12 at a good pace.

    Tyson stops him early I think. Chisoras looked shaky a few times in his last few fights. Having to go for little walks to break any action. He did it against Johnson in his last fight. The cumulative effect of Tyson, Helenius, Klitschko and Haye has dented Chisoras durability.

    Hopefully this is a breakthrough fight for Tyson, with regards to how he is percieved.

    Haye may have got a very good result against Chisora but up until that point he was having more problems with him than tyson did.
    This just shows what a plank you are. Its like you didnt watch the fight beyond the first round. Yes Fury won the 1st round. He was also hurt in the 2nd and had Chisora been fit and not gassed by the third I think Chisora would have won the 1st fight.

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    I think Fury will get a decision win. Still doesnt change how I feel about Fury. Hes a pussy. He picks on smaller guys. When he has the option to fight another big guy he pulls out, vacating a title in the process. If he wins this I doubt he will go anywhere near Wlad. He'll talk his way out of it or demand ridiculous money.

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    You must be very ignorant.

    The Furys asked to fight Ustinov. He wasn't forced on them and they ran. They asked for him so Fury could actually fight but then Tysons uncle/old trainer went in to a coma and has since died. This was on top of his wife having a misscarriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    You must be very ignorant.

    The Furys asked to fight Ustinov. He wasn't forced on them and they ran. They asked for him so Fury could actually fight but then Tysons uncle/old trainer went in to a coma and has since died. This was on top of his wife having a misscarriage.
    I was talking about Price you muppet. A fight he decided to turn down to go after Rogan, vacating his British title in the process.

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    Jees there's a lot of writing there

    I think chin will win on points

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    Which will actually be a bit of a pity coz as interesting as chiz is he's not got the appeal fury has

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Which will actually be a bit of a pity coz as interesting as chiz is he's not got the appeal fury has
    Does the winner get Audley Harrison? Sorry my brothers but this fight does nothing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Which will actually be a bit of a pity coz as interesting as chiz is he's not got the appeal fury has
    Does the winner get Audley Harrison? Sorry my brothers but this fight does nothing for me.
    Who knows.

    Last time the loser got a Klitschko fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Which will actually be a bit of a pity coz as interesting as chiz is he's not got the appeal fury has
    Does the winner get Audley Harrison? Sorry my brothers but this fight does nothing for me.
    Who knows.

    Last time the loser got a Klitschko fight
    and did very well

    the one thing thats leaning me towards chiz in an otherwise 50/50

    ill be honest tho im kind of in agreement with @mrbig1 , im not really that excited by it
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Which will actually be a bit of a pity coz as interesting as chiz is he's not got the appeal fury has
    Does the winner get Audley Harrison? Sorry my brothers but this fight does nothing for me.
    Who knows.

    Last time the loser got a Klitschko fight
    and did very well

    the one thing thats leaning me towards chiz in an otherwise 50/50

    ill be honest tho im kind of in agreement with @mrbig1 , im not really that excited by it
    You may not be excited by the thought of this rematch but it wont be boring. Neither fighter fights boring.

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    This is obviously a much bigger fight for the Brits than anyone else. I like to see decent heavyweight fights, and I think it will be good (fun to watch), but it's still a fairly meaningless fight put on mainly for the paydays for everyone involved.
    The person with the most to gain is Chisora which means Fury has the most to lose, and anything can happen in a heavyweight fight.
    I don't see how this could be a breakthrough/breakout fight for Fury unless he bangs Chisora out in the first half of the first round or beats Chisora to a pulp and forces him to stop in three rounds.

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    Weigh in was this afternoon. Chisora looks in great shape. Definitely no excuses this time. Fury didnt strip but weighed in higher then I expected at just over 18 stone. Chisora just over 17. Eubank looked good as always and Saunders looked good too. Has lost some fat it would seem. Nothing major in the other fights but the chap Buglioni is fighting looked big and strong. Never seen him fight though. Chap Pettitt is fighting looks a bum.

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