I actually thought the majority were in agreement that the last few years has been the worse HW division ever?
Bores the shit out of me, plodding slow rounds, no big risks taken,no heart.
I can appreciate WK like I could that German who perfected just a few moves around a very tight defense fuck what was his name that guy who ko'ed Mundine then retired unbeaten. Spen Oktte.
I had my head on Oktte Urkal for a second,poor bastard I shouldnt even have his name in the same paragraph as Spen, Urkal was an exciting hard hitting fighter who put it all on the line.
good ol' max power. always trying to make the same arguments about the HW division today being really good. talks about guys like chagaev and ibromigov as if they are ATGs. if these HWs were as good as he says, the HW division would be super popular today in the US. people in the US arent as bad as others make them out to be. we like fighters from different countries and they can just as easily be our favorite fighters as a foreigner can be. if the division were that good, it would be popular and wlad would be a big name. if wlad were american, i dont think that things would change too much.
REALLY?
Watch Ibragimov whack out your big Lance Whitaker, then tell me he isn't no good, or Ruslan outbox the 7'2" 320lb Valuev for 12 rounds and tell me he isn't no good.
Before you can be taken seriously at all, I need you to first complete this little questionnaire...
Where are you from?
What colour are you?
Are you a writer or in any position where you might profit somehow by making such claims (socially or financially?
Do you think European fans would feel the same way as you? That your black and white American greats were class acts, drunkenly falling around the ring with each other but their own boxers now are garbage? BS
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
You make the mistake of so many by comparing modern HW's with Cruiserweights of the past that were CALLED HW's then.
In general, OF COURSE a 210lb boxer is going to be faster than a 250lb one.
In general, OF COURSE a 210lb boxer is going to be capable of more movement and punch output than a 250lb one.
If that's what you regard as being good quality boxing Andre, then I am sorry to say, but the HW's are ONLY going to get bigger and this situation is never going back to the way you liked it.
Therefore hold on to that old DVD collection, because it'll never be seen again.
OR you could get acquainted with the Cruiserweight division
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
HaAHHAHahaHHAHahaHa!
oh... @Max Power!
Last edited by ruthless rocco; 12-12-2014 at 03:25 AM.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
haha. there are posters who claim that you said something that you didnt but you are the worst offender of this. i never said anything about anybody being a class act or any other country having bad fighters. all i said was that americans will embrace non americans. just look at pac for example. most americans would want him to KO mayweather despite mayweather being american. also, look at ufc. im not a huge follower of it but the biggest names i always heard were silva and st pierre and neither are american. so your claim that we as americans think that boxing isnt as big as it used to be only because there is no american HW dominating the division is completely false.
and where im from from america so i know from experience that what im saying is right. and im white which is the superior race so that makes me right too. just ask hitler. and also, im writing for a big historical boxing company so i have a lot of reason to defend old fighters and bash on current ones because they pay me the big bucks to come on boxing message boards to fill everybody's heads with all this propaganda.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
As a matter of fact it took me 5 seconds to come up with those 2.
Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?
Michael Moorer beat Holyfield among about 9 others. Andrew Golota beat up Bowe 2ce, Tyson was bashed by Williams, McBride and Buster. LEwis was wasted by Rahman and McCall.
It's in fact YOU making baseless assumptions portraying that Stiverne and Haye would not be ELITE opponents in the 90's!
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
You are funny Max very funny. I am beginning to think you are taking the piss now. Are you serious!
Do you not see how stupid your posts are? Really?
Come on now.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
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