Tyson is better than Lewis in at least one aspect?

[Snakey]

For the vitali fight i think Vitali was winning but lewis did seem to get better BUT vitali didnt look like losing. I think a rematch would of seen vitali beat lewis

[LBSCFC]

the thing that always gets me about the vitali/lewis argument is this. yes vitali was ahead on points, yes lewis was tiring. however was the cut caused by a headbutt? no. it was lewis fists what made klitschkos face look like something out of a horror movie. many other fights in history have been ended by cuts but ive never heard so much bleating since this fight.

[BigMix27]

For the vitali fight i think Vitali was winning but lewis did seem to get better BUT vitali didnt look like losing. I think a rematch would of seen vitali beat lewis

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[Jody Lane]

HANG ON A MINUTE TYSON BEAT RAZOR RUDDOCK BUT GAVE A REMATCH, THERE WASN'T MUCH OF A STRONG REASON FOR TYSON TO GIVE A REEMATCH AS HE NEARLY KNOCK RUDDOCK IN 7TH, AND ALSO TYSON ALSO LEADED ON POINTS.

KLITSCHKO WAS BEATING LEWIS ON POINTS BY 4 ROUNDS TO 2, THE PROOF ON BOXREC.COM
ALSO KLITSCHKO ONLY FIND OUT 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT THAT HE WILL FIGHT LEWIS, BECAUSE KIRK JOHNSON PULLED OUT THE FIGHT WID 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT WITH LEWIS.
LEWIS SAID VITALI IN FOR A BIG SHOCK BECAUSE HE NEVER EXPECTED THE FIGHT, BUT WE KNOW WHO WAS SHOCKED EVEN THOU LEWIS PREPARED 12 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT.

Although there is some logic here, I gotta sad click for your (all caps) shouting. Sorry.

[GAME]

I cant see anyway Vitali could beat Lewis .

He couldnt have lasted 12 as his face was ripped to shreds and he was tiring badly. That made his lead on the cards irrelevant . Also he couldnt win by K.O cuz he landed his best shots flush and Lewsi smiled at him . Usually when Lennox is overconfidant he goes down form lucky punches yet here was was olser slower anx heavier , every bit as overconfidant but Vitalis shots didnt bother him . Therefore there was no way Vitali could win

[BigMix27]

Also he couldnt win by K.O cuz he landed his best shots flush and Lewsi smiled at him .

Lewis also smiled at Rahman before he got [size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]KOED[/size][/size][/size][/size]

[GAME]

Also he couldnt win by K.O cuz he landed his best shots flush and Lewsi smiled at him .

Lewis also smiled at Rahman before he got [size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]KOED[/size][/size][/size][/size]

Lol I gota admit he deserved that . He definately needed a wake up call or he may have been in that arrogant mood fighting Tyson .

Lewis got the last laugh though

[SimonH]

ruddock at the time was the most feared man in the division. tyson took him on twice in non title fights and won conclusively.

IMO, Ruddock was the most feared fighter in the world because of Tyson. That meant he was considered to be #1 contender to Holyfield in 1992, until this bloke blew that myth and Ruddock away, one Halloween

[NUCLEAR BULL]

tyson was better in many not just one aspect. lewis was a 2 time paper and 1 time real champ

[LBSCFC]

arguably tyson is a 1 time paper and 1 time real champion

[BigMix27]

arguably tyson is a 1 time paper and 1 time real champion

which time was Tyson ever a paper champion? when he defeated Berbick, of Bruno?

[SalTheButcher]

1 Tyson willingly fought rematches against Ruddock, and Holyfield. All of these fights were difficult for Tyson, and in all of them, Tyson stood a good chance of losing.

2. Lewis fought rematches against McCall and Rahman. But on considering McCall and Rahman in comparison with Lewis we see that McCall and Rahman were no where in the same league as Lewis, and Lewis should have beaten them promptly in the initial fight. But since he lost his first matches against them due to neglegience on his part, he willingly fought rematches, knowing that he would have beaten them if he took these rematches a little more serious.


But here is where the trouble comes in.

The only rematch that Lewis knew that he could possibly loose was against Vitaly.

The only heavyweight rematch that Lewis knew that the public demanded was a fight against Vitaly.

What did Lewis do with all these weighty factors.
1. A huge demand.
2. an unsatisfying outcome of the first fight.


Lewis knowing the above factors willingly retired.

I don't know how you guys want to spin it, but it was a total act of cowardice.

Now comparing that to Tyson and Holyfield. I have yet to see Tyson and Holyfield willingly retire instead of pariticipating in a fight that the public was demanding.

i agree with you that lewis retired cuz he was afraid of vitali

[Unknowndonor]

The only thing Tyson was better at was intimidating, and excitement. Lewis was better in every other category.

Lewis beat Vitali, and beat him at Lewis' worst, and Vitali's best. Vitali didn't deserve a rematch. Lewis would have destroyed him even worse.

[LBSCFC]

arguably tyson is a 1 time paper and 1 time real champion

which time was Tyson ever a paper champion? when he defeated Berbick, of Bruno?

when he beat bruno and seldon. the best heavies in that era werent champions

[SimonH]

tyson was better in many not just one aspect. lewis was a 2 time paper and 1 time real champ

Lennox Lewis was World Champion from March 28 1998 until April 22 2001 and from November 17 2001 to February 4 2004*

Mike Tyson was World Champion from June 27 1988 to February 11 1990.


*Lewis retired undefeated, and as there has been no World Champion since, if he were to comeback with the status quo in place, he would have his reign backdated, and would still be considered World Champion, using the precedent set with Muhammad Ali's 1980 comeback.