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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    Quote Originally Posted by shooter
    If your saying Lewis didn't win the 6th round of that fight you need your eyes checked. Cut back on the testosterone if your all hot and sweaty about the Klit
    If you're saying that Vitali didn't dominate Lewis in that fight then you need to take Lewis c__out of your mouth and come up for air.

    Your boy was on his way out that night.....he didn't phase Vitali with his punches...and he was way more tired than Vitali....it's a fact and everyone knows it.
    vitali won early rounds, but lewis was definitely beginning to tough it out through the 5th and more so through the 6th...the fight could have gone either way without the stoppage, but IMO lewis was beginning to overcome vitali...

    regardless, vitali could not continue....
    Everyone there knew that Lewis had little to nothing in the tank. He was going down. If I was a Lewis fan I would keep a picture of Vitali's cut above my bed every night because thats what saved Lewis.

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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    Quote Originally Posted by shooter
    If your saying Lewis didn't win the 6th round of that fight you need your eyes checked. Cut back on the testosterone if your all hot and sweaty about the Klit
    If you're saying that Vitali didn't dominate Lewis in that fight then you need to take Lewis c__out of your mouth and come up for air.

    Your boy was on his way out that night.....he didn't phase Vitali with his punches...and he was way more tired than Vitali....it's a fact and everyone knows it.
    vitali won early rounds, but lewis was definitely beginning to tough it out through the 5th and more so through the 6th...the fight could have gone either way without the stoppage, but IMO lewis was beginning to overcome vitali...

    regardless, vitali could not continue....
    Everyone there knew that Lewis had little to nothing in the tank. He was going down. If I was a Lewis fan I would keep a picture of Vitali's cut above my bed every night because thats what saved Lewis.
    Ive watched the fight repeadedly myself, but we have no idea if Lewis was to go down in the ensuing rounds. All I know is that Lewis did look to be more the aggressor by the end of the 6th and to be honest....who knows what Vitali had in the tank as well??

    The nature of the result is bound to spark debate due to the lack of any real satisfying conclusion....but to say any more is really just to guess...

    Anyways, Im outta here....got class to teach...will get back on the debate later


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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    hmm I guess everyone thinks Lewis was winning, not running out of steam and shouldn't have given a rematch and retirement was due without any questions of a rematch. hmmmm I guess I'm at the wrong place

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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    1. Joe Louis(25 successful title defenses) 2. Rocky Marciano( Fought the best in his era and retired undefeated) 3. Lennox Lewis( Fought in the best heavyweight era and holds a win over every opponent he step in the ring with) 4.Jack Johnson (overcame racism and destroyed the best in his era) 5. Muhammad Ali ( Dodged draft, a complaining racist and had sex out of wedlock and won a few fights in a overrated era)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafiajoey
    you guys are the experts not me. Just a thought, shouldn't they have did it again? Why not fight again instead of having people doubt. Lewis doubted himself by not having a rematch. Whether he was winning or losing what about a rematch? Was it not nesseary? Was he conviningly good enough to not have to rematch?
    I don't think Lewis needed to prove anything to anyone, and he got out of boxing at exactly the right time IMO. He achieved in boxing what he had set out to achieve and eventually retired gracefully. OK the win over Klitschko was by no means easy but it was still a W on his record. I don't think Lewis ever doubted himself as a boxer, but i do think he realised he was coming to the end of his time, therefore, he made the correct decision by retiring rather than continuing and possibly being beat by fighters who wouldn't have stood a chance against him at his best (like many other great champions throughout boxing history!).
    Instead of questioning Lewis's decision to retire, we should praise his decision IMO.
    That said, who knows what would've happened if a rematch did go ahead with Klitschko? I personally believe that Lewis would've got himself in better shape and would've been more focused for the return (let's not forget that it was quite a lay off prior to Klitschko), and IMO he'd have knocked out the overrated Klitschko early, and would've knocked out Klitschko had the first fight continued any longer.

    Lewis is definitely missed in boxing, and i've always said that he would be years in retirement before he gets the full credit that he deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    5. Muhammad Ali ( Dodged draft, a complaining racist and had sex out of wedlock and won a few fights in a overrated era)
    This is boxing, the sport is full of heroes who were great in the ring, but less than desirable dinner guests...

    Just looking at your list, Johnson screams out as being anything but a Saint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    5. Muhammad Ali ( Dodged draft, a complaining racist and had sex out of wedlock and won a few fights in a overrated era)
    This is boxing, the sport is full of heroes who were great in the ring, but less than desirable dinner guests...

    Just looking at your list, Johnson screams out as being anything but a Saint
    Brilliantly stated!...CC

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    Lennox Lewis sickens me. So does Wlad. The extra tall heavyweights have a ridiculous advantage over the likes of Tua and Peter. The loooong jab can turn a chump into a champ.

    I am a short man so I seem to favor the squatty brawlers. You would fair in saying that I have a Napolean complex.

    Also, Lewis SHOULD NOT be a commentator. He struggles to find relative comments and when he does they come across forced, not at all like the previous two retired champs who held the job. What I loved about Jones Jr and Foreman is that they both flashed the same cheesy smile whenever the camera was on them. It was hilarious.

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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    1. Joe Louis(25 successful title defenses) 2. Rocky Marciano( Fought the best in his era and retired undefeated) 3. Lennox Lewis( Fought in the best heavyweight era and holds a win over every opponent he step in the ring with) 4.Jack Johnson (overcame racism and destroyed the best in his era) 5. Muhammad Ali ( Dodged draft, a complaining racist and had sex out of wedlock and won a few fights in a overrated era)
    Sorry but there is no way that Lennox is the third best heavyweight to ever step in the ring. There was no period when he was so dominant that the question was not whether he would win, but how quickly. At their peak, Louis, Marciano, Johnson, Ali, Foreman and (yes) Tyson were that dominant. Also, while I respect your opinion, I don't agree that Lennox fought in the best heavyweight era.

    Lewis was the only one mentioned who suffered any early KO losses, so he was either careless or chinny?

    Also, if we were to disqualify everyine who was a complaining racist or had sex out of wedlock, we would be overlooking many of the finest fighters to step into the ropes. This is boxing, not a sainthood hall of fame!!


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    Default Re: Where do you place Lewis in the All Time Greats lists??

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    5. Muhammad Ali ( Dodged draft, a complaining racist and had sex out of wedlock and won a few fights in a overrated era)
    This is boxing, the sport is full of heroes who were great in the ring, but less than desirable dinner guests...

    Just looking at your list, Johnson screams out as being anything but a Saint
    Just don't like Ali
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