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    Something to point out and, hopefully, to be noted: bobbing and weaving is not a haphazard hit or miss endeavor. Rather it is something done deliberately and knowingly, with a definite purpose (ie, a specific punch) in mind. For example, the famous Dempsey Triples.
    The first began by slipping inside an opponent's left jab and landing a straight right to the heart, then shifting the weight to the right leg (while stepping right and slightly forward with the right foot) to "bob" back under the left (while Dempsey hooked his left to the foe's body), thereby "weaving" to the outside position, shifting the weight to the right foot and throwing a right hook to the jaw.
    The second was based off a slip to the outside of an opponent's left lead, dropping the weight to the rt foot and and hooking the left to the body, then stepping to the left with the left foot shifting weight to the left leg and , while "bobbing" back under his foe's left (and hooking the right to the heart), Dempsey would "weave" to the inside position and throw a left hook to the chin.
    Point I'm trying to make is that you don't just "bob and weave". It is a series of planned motions for a specific purpose- avoiding his lead by slipping or ducking, then bobbing back under it and weaving your way to a more favorable position from which to land a punch. It is not something you do at random hoping he'll miss you and there is no point in being so low as to be unable to punch, no more than it makes sense to have your feet parallel or shoulders square while doing the "bob and weave". Also when weaving to the inside it often makes sense, depending on your plan (once you get there) to place a left glove over his right glove. So he can't hit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerjl
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    Yeah great video mate.Points out alot of things.

    Did you notice his right hand extended out as his head came up (in reaction cause deep down he knew it was comming )!
    but he dropped it away instead of holding it ! and let the left come through !
    Just shows you that if you are going to do that type of stuff and duck low bodily to avoid stuff,you have to come up guarded with a stiff arm out in the way covering your line before you move into it for protection and as a feeler to where things are now at; or have legs supple enough to be able to shuffle out of range or behind the attacker before you come up, while your still low, instead of blind and still in range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerjl
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    Glad you enjoyed the clip . I am a believer in watching fight film. I think it is a very important part of the training process. If you can learn from other peoples mistakes all the better, hopefully that’s one less mistake you make. I like to watch fights and see why things happen, understand what leads up to a certain outcome, what a fighter did right , and what a fighter did wrong to ultimately decide his or her fate.
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    Speaking about watching fight film thanks for sending me all those films

    Dude Lords Gym I Really Hate This I Wish I Had A Trainer Cuz With me Being My Own Trainer I Can Just Sluff Of And Stuff I Mean I Dont Want To BUt I Think About It I Train And I Train Hard But What In The Heck Am I Training For I Cant Compete In Any Competitions And Cant Really Spar With Anyone So What Is The Point Of Me Training Besides The Fact That i Love Boxing But Seriously I Just Need A Freeken Trainer I Want To Be A Great Boxer But Can Never Make It Without A Trainer And A Trainer Isnt Going To Be Easy To Get

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    Well what are you goals bro? . Dude all I can tell you is work on the things we talked about, polish up a bit, make some vid's email your clips to trainers and so on, I see if I can hook you up with the right folks , get them to sponsor you, and move out of the sticks to boxing camp. ! your going to have to go to them they aren’t coming to you. you know what I mean, its an option. if your serious you will find away, we got fighters that don't speak a lick of English that just show up on the step and want to box. they find away. the Ruelus brothers, camped out on the steps at Goosens joint without a dollar to their name , they both became world champions . . my point is that excuses are just excuses, I am not saying its easy, but it can be done, you got to look deep inside and decide what sacrifices you want to make? I personally think you got some natural talent, and could do some good when schooled properly.

    I wish you the best in your endeavors !



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    Dude I Know I Could Go TO A Trainer If I Could Travel 115 Miles But Soon I Am Getting A Car And Might Finally Be Able To Step Inside Of A Boxing Gym

    IM SO FREEKEN EXCITED

    THANK YOU SO MUCH LG
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    DUDE Ive Looked For Boxing Camps But The Only Ones Ive Found Are Only Like 2 or 3 Weeks And Are Just The Basics Which I Don't Know If that Would Help Very Much But For 2 or 3 Weeks I Think It Cost Like $300 Plus The Expense Of Traveling There But Like i Said I'm Getting A Vehicle Soon And I'm Getting It For Free So Maybe I Can Go Over 115 Miles And Finally Step Foot Into A Boxing Gym I Will Probably Have Like A Heart Attack or Something

    Thanks LG You have Been So Much Help And Thanks Everyone Else Also
    Just Ex-specially LG CUZ He HAS HELPED ME ALOT

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    Hey LG My Biggest Goal Right Now Is To Get A Trainer

    I Really Hope This Works Out For Me

    PLEASE EVERYONE WISH ME LUCK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerjl
    Speaking about watching fight film thanks for sending me all those films

    Dude Lords Gym I Really Hate This I Wish I Had A Trainer Cuz With me Being My Own Trainer I Can Just Sluff Of And Stuff I Mean I Dont Want To BUt I Think About It I Train And I Train Hard But What In The Heck Am I Training For I Cant Compete In Any Competitions And Cant Really Spar With Anyone So What Is The Point Of Me Training Besides The Fact That i Love Boxing But Seriously I Just Need A Freeken Trainer I Want To Be A Great Boxer But Can Never Make It Without A Trainer And A Trainer Isnt Going To Be Easy To Get

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    Hey I wish you were around here I would get you into my gym...You sound like you are determined as all hell so.. when you get your car go for it...keep doing what your doing though trainer or not...once you get into a gym you can learn what you need properly but if you keep doing what your doing at least you will be in shape to train....by practicing on the bag jogging rope ect....So many people don't understand exactly how long 3 min can be even while hitting the bag...I have had football players...runners...cyclers ect in my gym and when it came time to skip rope for 3 straight rds or hit the hvy bag for a rd straight they find out it takes a lot...Let alone spar....the first thing that will catch a trainers eye with a new guy will be the fact he is in shape enough to go through a workout without falling down exausted halfway through and the fact he has the basics down and isn;t just winging punches like a mad man...It tells them that they wont be wasting their time if they work with you....Believe me trainers and coaches hate to invest time in someone who decides this is too much hard work after a week or two....Your doing good just keep staying busy and getting in shape enough to train and in no time youll be in a gym....Telling us about first sparring session by spring.......You get a CC from me most guys would have just said the hell with it by now or decided they can do this alone or given up
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    Dude I Would Love To Be exausted After A Workout Maybe When I Get The Trainer He Will Make Me Work Harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerjl
    Dude I Would Love To Be exausted After A Workout Maybe When I Get The Trainer He Will Make Me Work Harder
    Self motivation is the key my brother ! You got to want it bad ! ! When you feel fatigue , get pissed off about it and pick it up ! Fatigue just reminds you to get busier that all ! When I get tired my punch out put increases. I get mad , and it motivates me to push it, remember your not going to die, you just feel think your going too, ! Pick it up ! If Cold outside? Raining, run one an extra mile then you normally would on a sunny day . get pissed ! Its nice having a coach but you have got to be self motivated to be successful in the sport of boxing !

    I quote James Toney “ Boxing is not a game you play . Football is game, Basketball is a game, Baseball is a game” if you play boxing your going to get knocked out ! “

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    What you see a lot is fighters even some experienced ones , like Jeremy Williams for example . half assing it, by bending at the waist, in stead of bending at the knee , when you bend at the waist your taking your eyes off your opponent momentarily , remember it’s the punch you don’t see that canvases a fighter 9 time outta 10 , that why technique must be mastered , half a** boxing will get ya knockedout !

    Notice in this example how Williams bends at the waist to avoid Peters right hook only to pop up and catch the left hook in full swing, he never saw the shot. Williams should have bent at the knee to avoid that right hook , so he could maintain eye contact, ! Jeremy was out for a good 5 min as result of this mistake, an amateur mistake made by a season pro. It just take one mistake guys ! so don't make too many !

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    Hey wuts up dogg? I hope u get this message I aint to good on these message boards. Anyhow i like the clip, but i got one question on it, "what should he of done to avoid that punch?" I had a similar problem on tue. sparrin day at my gym. I bent at the wast and moved right into a left hook, freakin caught it in tha nose and thank god i never ended up like the man in the video clip....get at me dogg, I'd appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungsav151

    Hey wuts up dogg? I hope u get this message I aint to good on these message boards. Anyhow i like the clip, but i got one question on it, "what should he of done to avoid that punch?" I had a similar problem on tue. sparrin day at my gym. I bent at the wast and moved right into a left hook, freakin caught it in tha nose and thank god i never ended up like the man in the video clip....get at me dogg, I'd appreciate it.

    maintain eye contact, see when Williams bent at the waist he was not able to maintain eye contact ,then when he came up he was lost, . he did not know that Peter's left was cocked and already in motion. BAMM ! never saw it.. a rule of thumb is never take your eyes of you opponent, so any move that would cause you to do that , don't ever do it. bending at the waist in a way that you can't clearly see your opponent is a no no . . Gamache got koed the same way when he made that mistake against Gatti . I would have bent at the knee and let the right hook shoot over maintaining eye contact and then shoot a visious left hook to the body , and pivot away while having up the proper defense . Peter over commits with that right hook, had Williams been in the proper position he would have several counters available to himthat would have worked brilliantly .

    work on duck walks in the gym to train your legs learn to get low using your legs . never bend forward at the waist . And remember that the punches you don't see get you every time

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    LG YOU FREEKEN HELP EVERYONE CC FOR YOU

    Yeah I Guess I Need A Little Bit More Motivation

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