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    Default Re: Judah - Camacho Jr. ticketed for Atlantic City?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

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    Default Re: Judah - Camacho Jr. ticketed for Atlantic City?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
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    This fight may be exciting, both of their styles could make for a good fight
    Oh!!! now Camachos style is a good one, but a few months back when the rumors going around about Camacho vs. Margarito you ran your mouth about Camacho being shet!!! that Margarito was a punk if the fight happend.
    And I still think that And even though camacho jr won me over in his last fight. Did I say he had a "good style" or did I say that him and Judah's styles would make a good fight?

    And as I expected to find somewhere in your post you going to Margarito
    Well you said 'Their styles could make for a good fight' wadda 'ya mean then? That they both have shitty styles and it still makes for a good fight Makes no sense, in order for 'their' styles to make for a good fight then 'their' styles would have to be good. Now you didn't say it word for word but how you phrased sure did.

    About Tony, it just so happens that the fact about you dissin' Camacho Jr. was in thread that involved Tony.
    Yeah I don't think much of Toney And Camacho Jr and Judah's styles are very good for each other Don't make me do this..

    http://www.HowToCreateGoodPostersAndThenRuinWithAnImageOf-A-Nobody.net

    again..

    So now that you ran out of things make up to say your gonna move on to something else
    If it makes you feel any better then here this is me right now -------------->
    After opening that page.
    'Panchito' Bojado had a lot of promise but never accomplished much except a WBC Youth belt and thats about it. But Starr by any means do not think that by you thrashing Bojado your getting back at me for the dissapointments your Zab has caused you that I point out. I bought into the hype of Bojado but I never claimed him to be something he wasn't. Unlike someone calling himself, king, undisputed, #1 etc. etc. when he got the belts, from the guy who beat, the guy who beat, the guy......
    I'm past Bojado hes forgotten about he tried and failed but I didnt and dont loose sleep over it.
    Happy now?

    But your Zab his career is a done deal and when he looses his next fight, lets see if his opponent has a pulse first cause you and I both know thats even to big of a risk for Zab right now. So once he looses again I will be here to remind you that I told you his career was a done deal.



    You still contredicted yourself about Camacho and thats that..
    And thats that Bojado never even made it that far I don't hype Judah to be up to anything he's nto either I aint sayin p4p number 1 am I? At LEAST to u.. zab had a career you coulr RIP..Bojado...never made it that far.. and THAT is that!!

    If bringing up Bojado makes you feel better about the disspointments Zabs had then so be it.
    But WTF does Bojado have to do in a thread about Camacho vs. Zab (Welterweight Div.)

    Think I need to go re-read the entire thread again, I think I missed something. Be right back. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    I warned you in another thread to stop pushing it But you kept on so thats why

    So you think I'm dissappointed in Zab's career?

    hmm
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    But Starr by any means do not think that by you thrashing Bojado your getting back at me for the dissapointments your Zab has caused you
    2 division Champ. 3 time Champ. 1 time Undisputed Welterweight Champ. Only lost to Tszyu(One of the greatest 140 pounders in the last 20 years hall of fame lock), Mayweather(Hall of fame lock already) and Baldomir(proving his worth to have that kind of career). I have no shame in Zab's career, sure he could have done more. I can admit he doesn't commit like he should to the sport. But it took him all those accompishments to do so. It took Bojado what..7 fights
    YOU warn me, who are you the local law enforcement? I say as I please and I must have hit a nerve if I drove you to those lengths of finding a picture of him copying something I types, opening the program, inserting the phrase, coming back here, clicking on CutMeMick, going to my last post, Shit wait a minute you got a lot of extra time on your hands there.....
    2 div. Champ thats great most fighters today avg. belts in at least 2 div. OK soooo?
    3 time Champ. that just means hes lost twice but managed to win a belt again.
    1 time Undisputed Welterwight Champ. Ehhhh!!! Error! it was DISPUTED cuz there was still a guy who was ranked #2 at that time Tony whom Zab said nah!! I'll still call myself undisputed regardless of me not fighting the #2 ranked Welter at that time who also owned the WBO belt.
    Starr heres a few examples of undisputed Champs. in a division:
    Lennox was Undisputed
    Tszyu was Undisputed
    and my fav. example of undisputed
    RJJ
    WBC Light Heavyweight Title
    IBF Light Heavyweight Title
    WBA Light Heavyweight Title
    IBO Light Heavyweight Title
    WBF Light Heavyweight Title
    IBA Light Heavyweight Title
    NBA Light Heavyweight Title
    Can anyone dispute him as the REAL champ at that time? Nope.
    Starr all you did is name 3 fighters, one great the other good fighters whom he lost to not sure what you were aiming for there but all you did was support my comment about him dissapointing you.
    You;re full of it you know that? All those Undisputeds you mention didn't need the WBO belt did they Margarito aint shat! Margarito was too busy ducking Spinks by the time Judah was going to fight him Again all you do is try to justify Margarito. Facts is facts and Judah was the Undisputed Champ. Example, Baldomir is the Undisputed Champ right now, why? because he beat Zab Judah Mayweather is fighting for the Undisputed Championship against him so shut it!
    And I named two greats(Mayweather and Tszyu) and one who is on his way to having that kind of career(Baldomir) So no, Zab hasn't dissapointed me
    CMM you're making this too easy
    Starr you can fill your replies with & all you wan't but the reason this conversation started wa because YOU contredicted yourself by saying Camacho was shet! then turned around and said his style + Zabs style would make for a good fight. Which would mean he would have to have a good style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
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    This fight may be exciting, both of their styles could make for a good fight
    Oh!!! now Camachos style is a good one, but a few months back when the rumors going around about Camacho vs. Margarito you ran your mouth about Camacho being shet!!! that Margarito was a punk if the fight happend.
    And I still think that And even though camacho jr won me over in his last fight. Did I say he had a "good style" or did I say that him and Judah's styles would make a good fight?

    And as I expected to find somewhere in your post you going to Margarito
    Well you said 'Their styles could make for a good fight' wadda 'ya mean then? That they both have shitty styles and it still makes for a good fight Makes no sense, in order for 'their' styles to make for a good fight then 'their' styles would have to be good. Now you didn't say it word for word but how you phrased sure did.

    About Tony, it just so happens that the fact about you dissin' Camacho Jr. was in thread that involved Tony.
    Yeah I don't think much of Toney And Camacho Jr and Judah's styles are very good for each other Don't make me do this..

    http://www.HowToCreateGoodPostersAndThenRuinWithAnImageOf-A-Nobody.net

    again..

    So now that you ran out of things make up to say your gonna move on to something else
    If it makes you feel any better then here this is me right now -------------->
    After opening that page.
    'Panchito' Bojado had a lot of promise but never accomplished much except a WBC Youth belt and thats about it. But Starr by any means do not think that by you thrashing Bojado your getting back at me for the dissapointments your Zab has caused you that I point out. I bought into the hype of Bojado but I never claimed him to be something he wasn't. Unlike someone calling himself, king, undisputed, #1 etc. etc. when he got the belts, from the guy who beat, the guy who beat, the guy......
    I'm past Bojado hes forgotten about he tried and failed but I didnt and dont loose sleep over it.
    Happy now?

    But your Zab his career is a done deal and when he looses his next fight, lets see if his opponent has a pulse first cause you and I both know thats even to big of a risk for Zab right now. So once he looses again I will be here to remind you that I told you his career was a done deal.



    You still contredicted yourself about Camacho and thats that..
    And thats that Bojado never even made it that far I don't hype Judah to be up to anything he's nto either I aint sayin p4p number 1 am I? At LEAST to u.. zab had a career you coulr RIP..Bojado...never made it that far.. and THAT is that!!

    If bringing up Bojado makes you feel better about the disspointments Zabs had then so be it.
    But WTF does Bojado have to do in a thread about Camacho vs. Zab (Welterweight Div.)

    Think I need to go re-read the entire thread again, I think I missed something. Be right back. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    I warned you in another thread to stop pushing it But you kept on so thats why

    So you think I'm dissappointed in Zab's career?

    hmm
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    But Starr by any means do not think that by you thrashing Bojado your getting back at me for the dissapointments your Zab has caused you
    2 division Champ. 3 time Champ. 1 time Undisputed Welterweight Champ. Only lost to Tszyu(One of the greatest 140 pounders in the last 20 years hall of fame lock), Mayweather(Hall of fame lock already) and Baldomir(proving his worth to have that kind of career). I have no shame in Zab's career, sure he could have done more. I can admit he doesn't commit like he should to the sport. But it took him all those accompishments to do so. It took Bojado what..7 fights
    YOU warn me, who are you the local law enforcement? I say as I please and I must have hit a nerve if I drove you to those lengths of finding a picture of him copying something I types, opening the program, inserting the phrase, coming back here, clicking on CutMeMick, going to my last post, Shit wait a minute you got a lot of extra time on your hands there.....
    2 div. Champ thats great most fighters today avg. belts in at least 2 div. OK soooo?
    3 time Champ. that just means hes lost twice but managed to win a belt again.
    1 time Undisputed Welterwight Champ. Ehhhh!!! Error! it was DISPUTED cuz there was still a guy who was ranked #2 at that time Tony whom Zab said nah!! I'll still call myself undisputed regardless of me not fighting the #2 ranked Welter at that time who also owned the WBO belt.
    Starr heres a few examples of undisputed Champs. in a division:
    Lennox was Undisputed
    Tszyu was Undisputed
    and my fav. example of undisputed
    RJJ
    WBC Light Heavyweight Title
    IBF Light Heavyweight Title
    WBA Light Heavyweight Title
    IBO Light Heavyweight Title
    WBF Light Heavyweight Title
    IBA Light Heavyweight Title
    NBA Light Heavyweight Title
    Can anyone dispute him as the REAL champ at that time? Nope.
    Starr all you did is name 3 fighters, one great the other good fighters whom he lost to not sure what you were aiming for there but all you did was support my comment about him dissapointing you.
    You;re full of it you know that? All those Undisputeds you mention didn't need the WBO belt did they Margarito aint shat! Margarito was too busy ducking Spinks by the time Judah was going to fight him Again all you do is try to justify Margarito. Facts is facts and Judah was the Undisputed Champ. Example, Baldomir is the Undisputed Champ right now, why? because he beat Zab Judah Mayweather is fighting for the Undisputed Championship against him so shut it!
    And I named two greats(Mayweather and Tszyu) and one who is on his way to having that kind of career(Baldomir) So no, Zab hasn't dissapointed me
    CMM you're making this too easy
    Starr you can fill your replies with & all you wan't but the reason this conversation started wa because YOU contredicted yourself by saying Camacho was shet! then turned around and said his style + Zabs style would make for a good fight. Which would mean he would have to have a good style.

    'Covergirl'
    I don't think it would be that simple. Remember what Golata and Bowe turned into even Rahman vs Maskaev turned out to be a great fight. I don't think both of their styles need to be great in order for it to be a great fight. If it was that simple then Trinidad vs DLH would have been fight of the century. just my 2 cents though.
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    Oh!!! I get that majesty the thing is SHE said their styles would make for a good fight. Bowe had talent, Golota had talent. In this case I cant see how their styles would make for a good fight. I just can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.
    How the hell do you know Clottey is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight then Zab... Look at his record he's never beat anyone, period.. And he's been pro since 1995... He and Margarito deserve each other, and it's still a pick em fight just because he looked good in his LOSS to Baldomir.

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    Regardless which one of these snapperheads wins, i am looking forward to seeing both corners/families going for it after the final bell! There is not even close to being 1 brain amongst all of them, cant wait. Bring it on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.
    How the hell do you know Clottey is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight then Zab...
    So that if Margarito wins he can hype and build him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.
    How the hell do you know Clottey is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight then Zab... Look at his record he's never beat anyone, period.. And he's been pro since 1995... He and Margarito deserve each other, and it's still a pick em fight just because he looked good in his LOSS to Baldomir.
    Clottey is much much tougher because he does not have a class jaw and he was DQED AGAINST baldo.He was winning by 5 rounds and that was WITH point deductions and we all know what Baldo did toJudah,Clottey is much more skilled than Baldo,faster and hots harder and he SHOOK Baldo..Anything else?

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    you nailed that one El Gamo ! Clottey brings it ! he solid like granite and and has mustard on his shots !

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    You know at first I thought this was an absolutely ridiculous matchup but now I'm starting to give Judah credit for taking on such a serious, respectable fighter. Watch out George Klinesmith.



    Hector Camacho Jr. 167 vs George Klinesmith 159.5
    Jesus Rodriguez 140.25 vs David Marquez 141.25
    Malcolm Tann 240.25 vs Sedreck Fields 231
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
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    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.
    How the hell do you know Clottey is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight then Zab... Look at his record he's never beat anyone, period.. And he's been pro since 1995... He and Margarito deserve each other, and it's still a pick em fight just because he looked good in his LOSS to Baldomir.
    Clottey is much much tougher because he does not have a class jaw and he was DQED AGAINST baldo.He was winning by 5 rounds and that was WITH point deductions and we all know what Baldo did toJudah,Clottey is much more skilled than Baldo,faster and hots harder and he SHOOK Baldo..Anything else?
    Yeah, and this was Baldomir 7 years ago he wasn't in the same form he was for Zab and was still losing every round until Judah got hurt... but anyways Clottey was DQed against Baldomir because he kept barging in with his head meaning he lost focus and probably doesn't have alot of heart either... THe exact same flaws you see in Judah... And he may have a good chin, he may not he's certainly never fought a puncher like Kosta Tszyu. Judah is also much faster and more skilled than Clottey, far better footwork, Clottey looked average in his last fight.. You can't just rate these prospects higher than world class fighters who you don't particularily like, Baldomir is the only decent guy on Clottey's resume and at that time he was a nobody who he lost to... Margarito, and Clottey, both need to prove something before you can even rate any aspects of them really... How do you know what they can do against a slick boxer, neither of them have ever fought anyone with any real skill... The fact that people actually are seeing this as a hard fight for Tony just proves where he is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
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    Judah via KO,good fight from him to get his confidence back.
    yea just to have it blasted away in 4 against Margarito

    Hahahaha dam right,CC!
    me and George Jetson will have to disagree here. I don't think Margarito would.
    Neither do I... I think he may not get past Clottey.
    I think Clottey has a slight advantage also, if Margarito beats Clottey I'm coming on board the Antonio Bandwagon. so make some room for me El Gamo just in case

    There's always plenty of space on the Margarito badnwagon bro! As for Clottey,he is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight than Zab and I am quite nervous about that fight. IF Tony wins,it'll be on points,Clottey is tough,uses rough house tactics and is fairl skilled,decent handspeed and power and very good at countering.
    How the hell do you know Clottey is a MUCH MUCH MUCH tougher fight then Zab... Look at his record he's never beat anyone, period.. And he's been pro since 1995... He and Margarito deserve each other, and it's still a pick em fight just because he looked good in his LOSS to Baldomir.
    Clottey is much much tougher because he does not have a class jaw and he was DQED AGAINST baldo.He was winning by 5 rounds and that was WITH point deductions and we all know what Baldo did toJudah,Clottey is much more skilled than Baldo,faster and hots harder and he SHOOK Baldo..Anything else?
    Yeah, and this was Baldomir 7 years ago he wasn't in the same form he was for Zab and was still losing every round until Judah got hurt... but anyways Clottey was DQed against Baldomir because he kept barging in with his head meaning he lost focus and probably doesn't have alot of heart either... THe exact same flaws you see in Judah... And he may have a good chin, he may not he's certainly never fought a puncher like Kosta Tszyu. Judah is also much faster and more skilled than Clottey, far better footwork, Clottey looked average in his last fight.. You can't just rate these prospects higher than world class fighters who you don't particularily like, Baldomir is the only decent guy on Clottey's resume and at that time he was a nobody who he lost to... Margarito, and Clottey, both need to prove something before you can even rate any aspects of them really... How do you know what they can do against a slick boxer, neither of them have ever fought anyone with any real skill... The fact that people actually are seeing this as a hard fight for Tony just proves where he is at.

    cc for the solid post

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