pacman will devastate barrera worse next time

[Hairdoo]

Rematches rarely change outcomes and if they do its usually when the 1st fight was close.

In Baby Face v Pacman there was no close fight!! Barrera got spanked!! admittedly it will be over 3 years break between fights if they meet again but that only makes Barrera older!! Pacquiao was only 24 years old when he whooped Barrera!!

Pacman will hand Marco his ass again there is no doubt about that

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I have to disagree with you when say marquez and barrera have better skill. Manny has side to side upper body head movement, I have not seen a mexican ever with good head movement, manny doesnt box he fights attacking but not like a mexican fighter, more like mike tyson he is elusive while attacking, most mexican fighters come at you straight up, quite honestly most are not used to a high level of skill in head movement Manny thought he would overwhelm marquez and to me it looked like he had something wrong, I think you can credit marquez for that to some degree. I understand what you guys are saying about barrera being 100 percent, but in qll honesty i think pac has improved, I when everyone was saying how great pac was thought he strictly shot in with a quick 1-2, he in the victory over morales showed a bit more and was impressed, however barrera got hit with that same 1-2 all night, you dont beat a great fighter with a 1-2, he fought tatically the wrong fight, barrera gets frustrated when he gets tagged and wants to fight, he boxes in recent years but fights when pressured, hes gonna throw punches with pac because hes not good enough to strictly outbox him like he did juarez who hits hard but has no speeed at all.

Totally agree. Barrera was at his best and was too proud to admit that he lost to a better fighter.His silence about his fight with Pacquaio is a silent testimony of his "fear" to fight Pac again. I believe he still does not know how to win over Pacman and is afraid of losing again that's why his group will not even mention rematch with Pac.

He was too humiliated when his corner forced him to stop the fight. But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT".It was too much already for him. He was like a punching bag waiting to burst.

Lies. If he wanted to quit he could have sat down like Morales. His 'group' what do you know? They want the fight.

[GAME]

But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT

Didnt realise you were there . Enlighten us further .

Tell us about Pacs thoughts as Singsurat destroyed him with ease in 3 rounds or how Torrencampo punched him once and Pac rolled around like a retard trying to get up . . . .?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT

Didnt realise you were there . Enlighten us further .

Tell us about Pacs thoughts as Singsurat destroyed him with ease in 3 rounds or how Torrencampo punched him once and Pac rolled around like a retard trying to get up . . . .?

[Pugilistic]

i would love to see them go at it again. i would see barrera losing again though

[zhubin]

Thank you Missy and Game for actually speaking some sense and not sounding like PAC jockers. Pacdog, how you don't think Barrarra and Marquez are not better skilled fighters than Manny is beyond me. You keep saying how Barrerra kept getting tagged by Manny's 1-2's....but Barrerra was off that night...mentally and physically....and he payed the price for it. I can totally see Pac getting frustrated by a boxer who has a good game plan and the skill to imploy it. It's so funny to me how people just assume a victory for a fighter....especially when he is fighting great opponents. Hope you all are brave enough to eat your words if Manny doesn't "destroy" and potentially lose against the likes of Morales, Barrerra, and Marquez.

[pacdog]

Of all the fighters you mention I think marquez has the best style to beat and frustrate pac but in all honesty Im not all that impressed with him either

[memojaras]

Haha. Coming from "pacdog" i guess that is a pretty unbiased view. Idiotic comments like that show your lack of knowledge and make you sound like Pacman groupie. If Manny even wins his rematch with Eric...he will fight a much more focused and ready Barrera. For you to say a legend like Barrera has "no shot" makes you sound like a fool.

I agree completely Barrera is just going to out box Pacman

[GAME]

Haha. Coming from "pacdog" i guess that is a pretty unbiased view. Idiotic comments like that show your lack of knowledge and make you sound like Pacman groupie. If Manny even wins his rematch with Eric...he will fight a much more focused and ready Barrera. For you to say a legend like Barrera has "no shot" makes you sound like a fool.

I agree completely Barrera is just going to out box Pacman

[rrbong]

But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT

Didnt realise you were there . Enlighten us further .

Tell us about Pacs thoughts as Singsurat destroyed him with ease in 3 rounds or how Torrencampo punched him once and Pac rolled around like a retard trying to get up . . . .?

Poor Barrera, looking at his corner trying to ask for help.....

Barrera: Help, help, help.Stop the fight. I can't bear the pain anymore.

This was his clear message during the fight. If you don't believe it... watch it again and look at BArrera's eyes. His corner can't stand the look in his eyes that's why they stopped the fight.


To Barrera's followers..... accept the fact that Barrera is due for retirement.

[spine_buster]

But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT

Didnt realise you were there . Enlighten us further .

Tell us about Pacs thoughts as Singsurat destroyed him with ease in 3 rounds or how Torrencampo punched him once and Pac rolled around like a retard trying to get up . . . .?

Past is past. We can't rate a boxer by observing his amateur fight. We know that Pac was KO'd by a couple of lame ass boxers but what can you say about those who Pac knocked-out? A bunch of more lame ass like MAB and Morales? Then we can say that Larios is better than those because he stand out and not to be KO'd?

But about the upcoming fight, MAB can win if he uses boxingwise techies. But i'll still pick Pac, has speed and power advantage. And also improved two-hand boxing and great defense.

[Hairdoo]

It seems like basic logic to me that when someone past their prime is soundly beaten by a guy who hasn't reached his yet, meets him 3 years worth of improvement later gets beaten worse.

[GAME]

But what was more humiliating was "IT WAS HIM WHO SUGGESTED TO HIS CORNER TO STOP THE FIGHT

Didnt realise you were there . Enlighten us further .

Tell us about Pacs thoughts as Singsurat destroyed him with ease in 3 rounds or how Torrencampo punched him once and Pac rolled around like a retard trying to get up . . . .?

Past is past. We can't rate a boxer by observing his amateur fight. We know that Pac was KO'd by a couple of lame a** boxers but what can you say about those who Pac knocked-out? A bunch of more lame a** like MAB and Morales? Then we can say that Larios is better than those because he stand out and not to be KO'd?

But about the upcoming fight, MAB can win if he uses boxingwise techies. But i'll still pick Pac, has speed and power advantage. And also improved two-hand boxing and great defense.

WTF !

[jbirdy]

pac man has got even better since he beat barrera. but although barrera under estimated pac man the first time round i can't see barrera improving as a fighter since then because of his age and the amount of times he has been round the block. i see a very one sided fight for pac man.

[sleeplessrevolution]

In all honesty, i don't think PACMAN can ever equal the boxing prowess of these 3 legends (EM,MAB and Marquez) but so do the great physical gifts of PAC: STR, SPEED and STAMINA. But up until now some fans doesn't realize yet how smart PAC is, eventhough he has only been trained by freddy roach for a couple of years, PAC has been improving extremely fast, learning some good boxing moves and using some techniques he had never used or ever dreamed of learning it before. I believe if roach has been manny's 1st coach ever since he should have been a very sound boxer right now although not better as those 3 legends. But then again, eversince the MAB 1st meeting, This PACMAN isn't the same anymore. in fact, even if we don't all admit, "The gap between the boxing techniques of the 3 mexican legends which is said to have been the best advantage of the 3 in fighting against PAC has been truly narrowed" To the point that its not that being respected anymore specially by PAC. While all the while the GAP of PACs Strength,speed and stamina against these 3 legends has been increasing because they were all getting old. Still, as i recall even at the peak of the careers of those 3 prolific figures they were never really as STRONG,QUICK and ever had the STAMINA as the PAC. All they really had as a great advantage against PAC was their boxing techniques. And so when they fight PAC, all their hopes on winning is thru DECISION only. A K.O. against PAC for them is like a miracle. There is one ultimate problem though, "PACMAN has a Godly stamina" and the effort on fending him off up to 12 full rounds thru great boxing technique is quite a feat and for some "class B" fighters would find it almost impossible.

This is my personal opinion, If you want to beat PAC with an increased probability you need to show him that you can hurt him too. Until you can't show it to him, a hail storm of hard pounding punches will not stop in 12 full rounds. This is the irony folks " MANNY throws a hundred of mixed hard punches/jabs while his opponent would only throw about 30-60 of it and yet in the end you will notice that the one who have thrown smaller volume of punches and is fighting backwards is the one catching his breath in the middle of 12 rounds." So if you can't really hurt PAC you just have to continue to box and pray that your boxing technique will be enough to save your day and your body condition is on the top most level of your career to maintain your body to keep on moving and moving because if you stop even for once, expect a full scale war again from the PACMAN and you will just regret going toe to toe against manny.

So unless MAB could truly hurt manny, he wiould have saved good rounds for him and prevented some avalanche of hard punches landed on him because PAC will become a little bit hesitant and somewhat lose his focus. Otherwise the PAC will just railroad him together with his punches and will catch him thru 12 full rounds. If MAB Hopes that he can tire PAC, he better think again. coz i will say it again PACMAN has a godly stamina. he doesn't belong to the 12 round fight era of this generation. he is truly built old school and can fight thru full 15 rounds at full throttle and most probably more.

I am not saying there is no hope for barrera winning against PAC. It's just that if he can't truly hurt PAC and would just rely on his pure boxing technique the probability of him winning is a very slim 25% of a chance.

note:class B fighters mentioned above are directed to other class b fighters you know who they are and that excludes MAB,EM and marquez because they are truly class A fighters.