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    Default Re: tito has good shot at calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    Quote Originally Posted by jangeorg
    Tito WTF?

    That would be so ridiculous there are no words... Old, shot AND far smaller!!! The three things Calzaghe normally chase - all in the same fighter. Now - that would set a new low, even for Calzaghe
    had to give you a sad click for that... but at least i admit it..
    there is no arguement you have just stated that it would be ridiculous... however i on the other hand have given a fair opinion having watched alot of joes fights and having watched every inch of ever tito trinidad fight.
    old? if were talking old.. joe is far older then tito what is he now like 33 34? fair enough its not prime but its not old!
    who said he was shot, i wouldnt say he's shot he was beaten twice in 43 fights
    also beaten by two fighters that will surely be inducted into the hall of fame
    i mean look at it bernard hopkins.. the first to unify the middleweight crown in lord knows how long
    winky wright fought/beaten some of the greatest fighters of this era. sugar shane twice, taylor, vargas (cough) beat!, hes probably the greatest defensive and smatest fighters of a generation.
    joe hasnt even fought two prime good fighters...
    he fought jeff and eubank..
    jeff is young and a huge project who got in too deep to early and had never really fought a big name.
    and joe fought eubank for the vacant title after eubank was at his best..
    he didnt even beat the man
    to be the man you have to beat the man and he didnt beat the man....
    and it took joe 9 odd years to even unify two titles... thats incredible!
    fair enough there are alot of factors in the fight that could have it go either way.. notice i havnt said anyone will whoop anyone... i have said a prediction but thats on certain terms
    im jus fighting the case for tito its incredible how you could just dimiss tito's case!!
    and if this is how the public feels then maybe if joe were to take this fight he'd be all oh i'll whoop tito i'll just stand in front of tito...
    and we all knows what happens to people who just stand in front of tito dont we?
    its a fair arguement lads!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete shonan
    tito only has power when he has the illegal hand wraps, against lighter opponents...against a bigger guy, after a few years off, and with legal handwraps.... i don't see how anyone can say he has a chance!
    and you sir have no arguement....
    one person william joppy he had his hand wrapped illegally!! and right before that fight his record was 39 wins no losses 32 ko's you think he would get away with that?
    and it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact willy wouldnt bring his hands right back to his head now would it...
    that is not an arguement thats just idle assumptions that you know isnt right ... have a sad click
    peace
    agree with what ur saying bro but he didnt just lose to them he got dominated and thats surely got to affect his confidence ??
    oh yeh definately, its a shame because tito knows standing toe to toe theres barely a middlewieght or any other person at his wieght that can take his power... and god bless the guy i love him
    but he can just be so one dimensional, and i wouldnt have him be beat by any other fighters
    i wasnt even mad watching him loose because bernard and winky are seriously some of the most elite fighters of the generation. tito has always fought the best.. and you know he comes to fight he just has cracks.
    ive already stated depending on how joe shows up is whether joe can win a ud... i havnt dissmissed it atall ive said fair play if he has a plan and sticks to it its a twelve round drubbing!
    but all these cats will dissmiss a guy that was once considered the best finisher and one of the best pound for pound in the game. but yet joe hasnt fought anybody.. just two people.. and three aba titles
    a fair fair fair few years ago...
    i certainly cant see why they say he's old... joe is either the same age as tito or a year or so older
    and tito has hands of stone. while joe has hands of glass
    certainly a fight that would make history though, i mean look at the following there is for both fighters!!
    that is a real ppv thats worth watching! the fan base for both joe and tito is incredible , joe should take the fight it'll make history and if he shows up in the right frame of mind and takes a decision his legacy goes way up and so does trinidads bank account regardless...
    course theres no way to dissmiss tito! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    Quote Originally Posted by jangeorg
    Tito WTF?

    That would be so ridiculous there are no words... Old, shot AND far smaller!!! The three things Calzaghe normally chase - all in the same fighter. Now - that would set a new low, even for Calzaghe
    had to give you a sad click for that... but at least i admit it..
    there is no arguement you have just stated that it would be ridiculous... however i on the other hand have given a fair opinion having watched alot of joes fights and having watched every inch of ever tito trinidad fight.
    old? if were talking old.. joe is far older then tito what is he now like 33 34? fair enough its not prime but its not old!
    who said he was shot, i wouldnt say he's shot he was beaten twice in 43 fights
    also beaten by two fighters that will surely be inducted into the hall of fame
    i mean look at it bernard hopkins.. the first to unify the middleweight crown in lord knows how long
    winky wright fought/beaten some of the greatest fighters of this era. sugar shane twice, taylor, vargas (cough) beat!, hes probably the greatest defensive and smatest fighters of a generation.
    joe hasnt even fought two prime good fighters...
    he fought jeff and eubank..
    jeff is young and a huge project who got in too deep to early and had never really fought a big name.
    and joe fought eubank for the vacant title after eubank was at his best..
    he didnt even beat the man
    to be the man you have to beat the man and he didnt beat the man....
    and it took joe 9 odd years to even unify two titles... thats incredible!
    fair enough there are alot of factors in the fight that could have it go either way.. notice i havnt said anyone will whoop anyone... i have said a prediction but thats on certain terms
    im jus fighting the case for tito its incredible how you could just dimiss tito's case!!
    and if this is how the public feels then maybe if joe were to take this fight he'd be all oh i'll whoop tito i'll just stand in front of tito...
    and we all knows what happens to people who just stand in front of tito dont we?
    its a fair arguement lads!!
    peace

    Quote Originally Posted by pete shonan
    tito only has power when he has the illegal hand wraps, against lighter opponents...against a bigger guy, after a few years off, and with legal handwraps.... i don't see how anyone can say he has a chance!
    and you sir have no arguement....
    one person william joppy he had his hand wrapped illegally!! and right before that fight his record was 39 wins no losses 32 ko's you think he would get away with that?
    and it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact willy wouldnt bring his hands right back to his head now would it...
    that is not an arguement thats just idle assumptions that you know isnt right ... have a sad click
    peace
    agree with what ur saying bro but he didnt just lose to them he got dominated and thats surely got to affect his confidence ??
    oh yeh definately, its a shame because tito knows standing toe to toe theres barely a middlewieght or any other person at his wieght that can take his power... and god bless the guy i love him
    but he can just be so one dimensional, and i wouldnt have him be beat by any other fighters
    i wasnt even mad watching him loose because bernard and winky are seriously some of the most elite fighters of the generation. tito has always fought the best.. and you know he comes to fight he just has cracks.
    ive already stated depending on how joe shows up is whether joe can win a ud... i havnt dissmissed it atall ive said fair play if he has a plan and sticks to it its a twelve round drubbing!
    but all these cats will dissmiss a guy that was once considered the best finisher and one of the best pound for pound in the game. but yet joe hasnt fought anybody.. just two people.. and three aba titles
    a fair fair fair few years ago...
    i certainly cant see why they say he's old... joe is either the same age as tito or a year or so older
    and tito has hands of stone. while joe has hands of glass
    certainly a fight that would make history though, i mean look at the following there is for both fighters!!
    that is a real ppv thats worth watching! the fan base for both joe and tito is incredible , joe should take the fight it'll make history and if he shows up in the right frame of mind and takes a decision his legacy goes way up and so does trinidads bank account regardless...
    course theres no way to dissmiss tito! lol
    peace
    oh yes he certainly can crack one of commentators say he had weak chin i disagree tito is great fighter but he is like u said he is bit of one trick pony i admire tito he certainly has fought the best even though i would favour calzaghe 80/20 when two men get in the ring anything can happen one swing can change history

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    Default Re: tito has good shot at calzaghe

    i'd pay a million to see it!! would be a classic... certainly a wrap up to tito's legacy!
    and if he beats calzaghe there isnt really anyone else in the division he couldnt beat, i mean theres kessler but if he beat joe im sure he could beat kessler, then hes undisputed.. lol its a long shot..
    depends on how tito would be at super middle.. you forget that tito walks around naturally at between 160 and 170 better if hes 160 then instead of having to drop the wieght, he gets a good conditioning coach and he wont loose so much power trying to make the wieght , plus he'll be better on his feet as that was considered the problem most of the times he was droped early he supposedly had trouble getting warmed up and sweated up because he had dried out to make wieght.
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    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    whats with the tito haters man??
    i saw joe get rocked a bit against bika!! obv not just putting his performance last week down to my decision but also he was dropped by another guy i forget the name of a while back
    but point bieng i dont know the guy because joe was dropped by a bum....
    tito still has great power but im not sure if it would suffer even worse at super middle or not...
    prefer it to be at middle... like i said joe has gone this far and never been beaten
    so hes to proud to be knocked out but i think tito wins by late stoppage..
    be a great fight thou
    peacce
    But look at Bika... he's a 175 fighter IMO who is a division down trying to use his natural strength against smaller guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB
    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    whats with the tito haters man??
    i saw joe get rocked a bit against bika!! obv not just putting his performance last week down to my decision but also he was dropped by another guy i forget the name of a while back
    but point bieng i dont know the guy because joe was dropped by a bum....
    tito still has great power but im not sure if it would suffer even worse at super middle or not...
    prefer it to be at middle... like i said joe has gone this far and never been beaten
    so hes to proud to be knocked out but i think tito wins by late stoppage..
    be a great fight thou
    peacce
    But look at Bika... he's a 175 fighter IMO who is a division down trying to use his natural strength against smaller guys.
    fair play to bika tito did that for years at 147... was less effective at 154 and 160 then it was just natural power, and if you ask me joe was rocked by bika a few times.. of course there was the fact the bika had clashed heads and that would have taken its toll but i dont think he ever been hit by anyone with true power has he? i mean a shot eubank maybe had some power left.
    and joe never let lacy get off with his big punches.
    and yes joe could outbox tito but tito is no prospect.. hes a veteran one punch could make him stop and tito is one of the best finishers out there.. could be bad news?
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    Default Re: tito has good shot at calzaghe

    Joe has a good chin on him... regardless of who threw them they were good shots he was hit with... both times he has been in bad form when it has happened... in court with his wife and stuff... up until the 2 fights it had happened he had never been knocked down... sparring amatuer, pro or other wise.

    He took some good shots off a much bigger man in Bika... most heavy weights would feel his punches...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB
    Joe has a good chin on him... regardless of who threw them they were good shots he was hit with... both times he has been in bad form when it has happened... in court with his wife and stuff... up until the 2 fights it had happened he had never been knocked down... sparring amatuer, pro or other wise.

    He took some good shots off a much bigger man in Bika... most heavy weights would feel his punches...
    yeh true bika has a good shot on him, he's just one of those tough guys that never really made it big i guess... i was gona make a thread about em
    cats like ben tackie who was very touch and a good fighter who never really got big big fights
    and like phillipe ndou who doesnt get enough credit for how good he is.. was something like 31 -1 -0 before he fought pbf with 30 knockouts.. and i tell you he put up a good fight won some rounds but floyd was too precise with his shots.. showed alot of heart thou..
    i get what your saying.. i dunno though i dont think i'll ever get on the joey c bandwagon cos hes never fought great competition, i mean fair is fair number one contenders are number one contenders for a reason... theyr tip top tough, but theyr not the opponents he should have faced , he didnt even look for the big fights, i never heard of him calling out roy jones or bhop about four years ago? he says he did thou... i dunno, he is either a great fighter who has wasted his talent and wasted his best years.. or a fony who has get up the hopes of millions, i duno i wouldnt like to say...
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    Default Re: tito has good shot at calzaghe

    All the Trinidad fans like to say that Trinidad is a natural 154 pounder and doesn't have power to hurt the guys like Hopkins and Winky on pure size. Yet they sit there and say that Calzaghe could be knocked out by Trinidad at 168 pounds

    I love Tito Trinidad(no homo) no doubt. But he's not going to beat Joe Calzaghe.
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    Default Re: tito has good shot at calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
    Quote Originally Posted by pacdog
    Calzaghe is not all that great he isnt dazzling fast gets hit alot, trinidad has a good shot against him he will be there to be hit
    As an American(for all you Brits) I think your F****** crazy... Tito TKO in the 8th or Calzghe by easy deci.
    got to this second post and didnt bother reading the rest CC boston... as you pegged pacdog in one line

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