if collazo does beat mosely....

[Bx730NY]

and convincinly
will hatton be given credit?
or will mosely be known as finished?

I would have to say both.

[Violent Demise]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

[Wacko3205]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

Thanks VD. I know you were defending yourself...but it saved me the time of really wasting my energy on this.

Wacko-digest what? The load of shit you were trying to feed me? Please. Anyways, Hatton lost & got a gift...let's just move on.

[Violent Demise]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

Thanks VD. I know you were defending yourself...but it saved me the time of really wasting my energy on this.

Wacko-digest what? The load of shit you were trying to feed me? Please. Anyways, Hatton lost & got a gift...let's just move on.

No thanks needed. These Hatton groupies have every excuse imaginable. They just need to be set straight. It was CityOfCock turns to be put in placed.

[Purist]

then Margarito will want a match with Collazo

[Rotten Apple]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day

[Violent Demise]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day

I doubt Hatton ever lives up to his word and gives Collazo a rematch. After Castillo kicks his ass, what will be the point?

[Kel]

VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ?

He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.

Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !

I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.

Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.

He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?

Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.

But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.

So VD & Wacko - digest that.

Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.

Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day

I doubt Hatton ever lives up to his word and gives Collazo a rematch. After Castillo kicks his a**, what will be the point?

I dont think Castillo will beat Hatton mate.

[oakleyno1]

no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent

[Bx730NY]

no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent

That's true. He did get chased back down but who knows if Floyd would have gotten chased back down if he fought such a tough opponent his first fight at WW.

[gally]

Collazo gotta lot of credit from his performance against Hatton, i certainly dont think sugar shane would be wanting to fight collazo if he hadnt gained the exposure and recognition from the Htton fight, so it hasnt been all bad for luis however everyone else called the fight. facts being facts hatton shoulda gave luis a rematch, but he didnt score the fight, I hope collazo goes on to do well beat mosely and Hatton faces him again so this balls can stop once and for all, until then i say lets give them both credit for a great tough fight!!!

[p4pking]

no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent

That's true. He did get chased back down but who knows if Floyd would have gotten chased back down if he fought such a tough opponent his first fight at WW.

If Floyd had fought Collazo his firs fight at welter noone would ever have given him respect or called him a tough opponent, before or after the fight. With hindsight he obviously was tougher than Mitchell but noone rated him very highly before he fought Hatton and with good reason, we'll see if he's really that good when he fights Shane.

[Bx730NY]

no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent

That's true. He did get chased back down but who knows if Floyd would have gotten chased back down if he fought such a tough opponent his first fight at WW.

If Floyd had fought Collazo his firs fight at welter noone would ever have given him respect or called him a tough opponent, before or after the fight. With hindsight he obviously was tougher than Mitchell but noone rated him very highly before he fought Hatton and with good reason, we'll see if he's really that good when he fights Shane.

Very good point. After he fights Shane we'll know alot more about Collazo and Hatton.

[Rican]

I honestly think Mosley will knock out Callazo, and then we might get to see Mosley Citron.... If this happens, I think Citron wins by Ko.

Well I think that if Citron and Mosley were to fight Mosley would win he has more polished skills and his hand speed woul make the difference he would out box and hit citron all night long

You may be right M. but remember that Cintron is taller and has a longer reach than Sugar Shane. Also, have you seen Cintron's jab (not to mention his power) lately? Cintron will keep him away because of it (and the power). I agree that Sugar gets KO'd in this fight.

[Violent Demise]

I honestly think Mosley will knock out Callazo, and then we might get to see Mosley Citron.... If this happens, I think Citron wins by Ko.

Well I think that if Citron and Mosley were to fight Mosley would win he has more polished skills and his hand speed woul make the difference he would out box and hit citron all night long

You may be right M. but remember that Cintron is taller and has a longer reach than Sugar Shane. Also, have you seen Cintron's jab (not to mention his power) lately? Cintron will keep him away because of it (and the power). I agree that Sugar gets KO'd in this fight.

It's one thing to look against club fighters like Estrada and Gutierrez. Than to look good against an elite fighter like Mosley. Estrada and Gutierrez were low level B fighters. Last time Cintron faced a regular B fighter (Margarito) he got destroyed. Now you saying he can knock out an A level fighter like Mosley. Foolish boy. Cintron himself doesn't think he can beat Mosley. Why you think he pulled out? Promotional difficulties? Yeah fucking right! Sound like heart difficulties. As in a lack of one.