Why is Pacquiao getting so much hype?

[Taeth]

The thing is Hatton was in a similar position to Pacquaio and everyone said he could beat PBF, and Hatton is another very good pressure fighter who is not quite the athlete Pacquaio is, but is better schooled, and his defense was suspect when he fought Collazo and he had troubles. I think Casamayor would Pacquaio a hell of a fight. I mean Pacquaio for his last few ko's has worn down his opponents, and hasn't shown one punch ko power really lately (Third fight against Morrales like I said earlier was not a devastating ko, but Erik decided not to stand up... he even gave a knowing wink to his corner though I don't think the fight was rigged he knew he was outgunned and didn't want to get brutalized). Anyways Casamayor is very skilled, a good puncher with speed, and only 5 pounds north of Pacquaio. Guzman like Valero are good opponents to raise Pacquaio's stock more, but they may not be ready for him nor may they be the right opponents for him. Pacquaio is pretty big at 130, and I could easily see him going up to 140 if he wanted to, and then he could fight Corrales, Castillo, Hatton though I think they would all beat him because they too big. The thing I see is Mayweather can go up and down weightclasses even as he gets older due to skill while I don't think Pacquaio will be able to fight much bigger because as good as he is. He realizes on his power to save him, and thats why he isn't as good as PBF or Winky IMO.

[XaduBoxer]

... do you think if Barrera went up 5 pounds to fight Castillo he would win? Or if he the Castillo who went toe to toe with Corrales at this point in his career? Barrera can't hurt Castillo, and Castillo who hits harder than Pacquiao would knock him out.

That's why we have a P4P list in order to compare boxers from different weight category without having them to actually fight each other... Imagine a heavy fighting a fly ... P4P is subjective but yours is so unique where Margo and Castillo are ahead of Barrera...
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[Pavlik]

=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG

Obviously you unaware of the termoil prior to MAB's fight with Pac Man.

He left his promoter to join golden Boy Promotions. This angered his old old promoter so he disclosed that MAB had a plate in his head which caused a media frenzy here in the states not in his homeland. 2nd his training camp was interupted / stopped due to brush fires. 3rd he underestimated Pac Man. All more legitimate excuses than a pair of socks from the .99 cents store as used by Pac Man and his nuthugging fans. I Hope his jockstrap is sized right for the JMM rematch. Either way it is his nuthugging fans and not Pac himself that generate excuses if he falls short of a KO. Plus if you knew anything about boxing you would know Raheem has little or no power at all.

Bro I'm not berating MAB but I believe that Barrera could very well be overwhelmed by PAC as much as Juarez did. Citing MAB-Juarez I as an example, MAB cannot handle Juarez in a toe to toe fight given that Juarez is very tentative and quite lazy imagine what a fired PAC would do. I just know alittle about boxing IMO for I dont box at all
by the way I consider Juarez more of a threat to PAC than MAB is or ever will be

[Pavlik]

The thing is Hatton was in a similar position to Pacquaio and everyone said he could beat PBF, and Hatton is another very good pressure fighter who is not quite the athlete Pacquaio is, but is better schooled, and his defense was suspect when he fought Collazo and he had troubles. I think Casamayor would Pacquaio a hell of a fight. I mean Pacquaio for his last few ko's has worn down his opponents, and hasn't shown one punch ko power really lately (Third fight against Morrales like I said earlier was not a devastating ko, but Erik decided not to stand up... he even gave a knowing wink to his corner though I don't think the fight was rigged he knew he was outgunned and didn't want to get brutalized). Anyways Casamayor is very skilled, a good puncher with speed, and only 5 pounds north of Pacquaio. Guzman like Valero are good opponents to raise Pacquaio's stock more, but they may not be ready for him nor may they be the right opponents for him. Pacquaio is pretty big at 130, and I could easily see him going up to 140 if he wanted to, and then he could fight Corrales, Castillo, Hatton though I think they would all beat him because they too big. The thing I see is Mayweather can go up and down weightclasses even as he gets older due to skill while I don't think Pacquaio will be able to fight much bigger because as good as he is. He realizes on his power to save him, and thats why he isn't as good as PBF or Winky IMO.

The thing I see is Mayweather can go up and down weightclasses even as he gets older due to skill while I don't think Pacquaio will be able to fight much bigger because as good as he is. He realizes on his power to save him, and thats why he isn't as good as PBF or Winky IMO.

Cool click for you on this on Taeth I agree

[Bx730NY]

The thing is Hatton was in a similar position to Pacquaio and everyone said he could beat PBF, and Hatton is another very good pressure fighter who is not quite the athlete Pacquaio is, but is better schooled, and his defense was suspect when he fought Collazo and he had troubles. I think Casamayor would Pacquaio a hell of a fight. I mean Pacquaio for his last few ko's has worn down his opponents, and hasn't shown one punch ko power really lately (Third fight against Morrales like I said earlier was not a devastating ko, but Erik decided not to stand up... he even gave a knowing wink to his corner though I don't think the fight was rigged he knew he was outgunned and didn't want to get brutalized). Anyways Casamayor is very skilled, a good puncher with speed, and only 5 pounds north of Pacquaio. Guzman like Valero are good opponents to raise Pacquaio's stock more, but they may not be ready for him nor may they be the right opponents for him. Pacquaio is pretty big at 130, and I could easily see him going up to 140 if he wanted to, and then he could fight Corrales, Castillo, Hatton though I think they would all beat him because they too big. The thing I see is Mayweather can go up and down weightclasses even as he gets older due to skill while I don't think Pacquaio will be able to fight much bigger because as good as he is. He realizes on his power to save him, and thats why he isn't as good as PBF or Winky IMO.

The thing I see is Mayweather can go up and down weightclasses even as he gets older due to skill while I don't think Pacquaio will be able to fight much bigger because as good as he is. He realizes on his power to save him, and thats why he isn't as good as PBF or Winky IMO.

Cool click for you on this on Taeth I agree

He's already gone up several weight classes and taken on the best possible opponents on the way I might add (not like Floyd). Seriously, I think Floyd is great but I'm just not sure. How can anybody be sure if he doesn't fight the best fights. Winky is another story and I don't have a problem with either he or Pac being p4p #1. I'm not a die hard fan of either but they're are the two most deserving.

[sexydarin]

How many future Hall of Famers does Pac have to @ss kick before you realize he is a future hall of famer himself.

[Taeth]

In the last 8 years Pacquaio has gone up ten pounds, and before that he was still growing/starving when he first started. In the last 4 years Mayweather has gone up 19 pounds, and is fighting Oscar Dela Hoya at a weight 24 pounds above where Mayweather would be at his prime.

[Taeth]

The only weight class Mayweather didn't fight the best was light welterweight, and even get me started on how he would have done against Kostya Tszyu.

[Taeth]

... do you think if Barrera went up 5 pounds to fight Castillo he would win? Or if he the Castillo who went toe to toe with Corrales at this point in his career? Barrera can't hurt Castillo, and Castillo who hits harder than Pacquiao would knock him out.

That's why we have a P4P list in order to compare boxers from different weight category without having them to actually fight each other... Imagine a heavy fighting a fly ... P4P is subjective but yours is so unique where Margo and Castillo are ahead of Barrera...
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I know what the p4p list is for, but Barrera right now is 5 pounds south of Castillo so have them fight at 138.5 and who do you think would win? or 137.5 is Castillo would do it? THats a catch weight in between their weights right now, and Castillo would destroy MAB.

[babyboNe]

... do you think if Barrera went up 5 pounds to fight Castillo he would win? Or if he the Castillo who went toe to toe with Corrales at this point in his career? Barrera can't hurt Castillo, and Castillo who hits harder than Pacquiao would knock him out.

That's why we have a P4P list in order to compare boxers from different weight category without having them to actually fight each other... Imagine a heavy fighting a fly ... P4P is subjective but yours is so unique where Margo and Castillo are ahead of Barrera...
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I know what the p4p list is for, but Barrera right now is 5 pounds south of Castillo so have them fight at 138.5 and who do you think would win? or 137.5 is Castillo would do it? THats a catch weight in between their weights right now, and Castillo would destroy MAB.

taeth, you got the p4p twisted. its not about them meeting at a catch weight. its a matter of if they where naturally the same size. mab has gone up enough and castillo has too. goind up or down is not good for either one because they have reach their limit. so a fight in a catch weight is not the correct way to look at it. look at there resume and how they have win. castillo is a inconsistent fighter, mab is the kind that maintains a certain level. mab has multiple gears while castillo is always at one pressured but solid state. mab is a future hall of fame, castillo is not.

this is all bullshit, since mab lost to pac suddenly anyone bigger or whoever can beat him...the size issue is bullshit. image if mab was a natural middleweight. his boxing skill but brawling abbility would be nearly unbeatable,

in that case imagin a natural middleweight pacman. his speed his power and stamina will be outstanding.

the lower weightclass is always look over, imagin though some of them a natural middleweight and you will get why p4p mab em jmm and pac have been p4p best.

about pbf, yea he has move up a lot...lets give him credit for that. but certainly he has left many names and choose tune up instead, something greats don't do. while moving up he has fought no p4p best, the only p4pders he has fought where castillo and chico, that was as a featherweight, way way back. since then he has fought gatti mitchell zab baldomir, if you sum up his oppenents including chico and castillo, basically pbf has fought a bunch of inconsistent fighters.

the thing that's missing with pbf is that, he hasn't beat someone that hasn't been beaten by someone else. sum up the number of lost the fighters he has been beating, it average about 4 loses. and add on the fact that the only reason why pbf got top p4p is because roy and bhop lost. pac and winky hasn't yet dominated so it was a gift to pbf. he never got the deserving win over a great, and pac and winky has now beaten atleast two great or hall of famers. that's why pac and winky has a case. plus how good is pbf if he wasn't jst fighting inconsisten fighters.

taeth I want to know what you think pbf would do to koysta if they fought. don't base your oppinion on the hatton koysta fight. base it on before koysta lay off. because that's when they could of fought.

[spine_buster]

one word...EXCITING

[superproxy]

i hope for a fight bet pac and jmm... imo a win against jmm would disclose this discussions

[XaduBoxer]

That's why we have a P4P list in order to compare boxers from different weight category without having them to actually fight each other... Imagine a heavy fighting a fly ... P4P is subjective but yours is so unique where Margo and Castillo are ahead of Barrera...
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I know what the p4p list is for, but Barrera right now is 5 pounds south of Castillo so have them fight at 138.5 and who do you think would win? or 137.5 is Castillo would do it? THats a catch weight in between their weights right now, and Castillo would destroy MAB.

I love to see your P4P list Mr. Taeth ... Your own P4P list will show your very own subjective opinions but as I see it, people won't buy the way you justify your list ... You might even be ridiculed if ever you show that P4P list where Margarito and Castillo is ahead of Barrera ...
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