Ricky Hatton To Be Stripped of IBF Title

[Violent Demise]

So this is why he backed out of a rematch with Collazo? To fight a paper champion in Urango and than get stripped. Brilliant career move. Over 40 fights, yet only one elite name. An aging one at that.

No doubt Hatton's groupies will consider me stating these true facts as me bad mouthing him.

[Memphis]

And beating Collazo again would have been a great career move because?

Getting stripped of the title is imaterial, so long as its Castillo next its a smart move, no?

[Sovereign]

Yeah coz you'd have loved it if he'd have stayed in Manchester and fought Oktay Urkal wouldn't ya. He'd have made loads of friends doing that.

[killersheep]

And beating Collazo again would have been a great career move because?

Getting stripped of the title is imaterial, so long as its Castillo next its a smart move, no?

Fighting Collazo again would have been a good career move because:

1) it was a VERY close fight
2) he promised Collazo a rematch
3) it would justify what he was saying about not having enough time to train for the fight
4) it would give him the chance to silence the naysayers that thought Collazo won
5) he would have had leverage (a title) in the money division (Welterweight, more likely of a jumping point to PBF or Cotto than Light welter)
6) it was an oppotunity for him to show the WORLD (not just the UK, that he could dominate a slick boxer)
7) It would have drawn more fans than a fight with Urango.
It would have been a bigger payday than Urango

That being said, at this point I am hoping that he drops the IBF title and goes ahead with the Castillo bout (which is the best move he can make right now IMO)

[Sovereign]

I don't think that Hatton would ever do that well at Welterweight, he's very short and has very short arms, against rangy southpaw slick-boys who are naturally bigger than him then he's always going to be at a massive disadvantage.

The fact is he's a 140lber, and thats that. I'd only want to see him move up to fight Cotto or Mayweather. Mayweather isn't any bigger than Hatton, and Cotto isn't much bigger. Other than that he should stay at 140lbs.

[killersheep]

I don't think that Hatton would ever do that well at Welterweight, he's very short and has very short arms, against rangy southpaw slick-boys who are naturally bigger than him then he's always going to be at a massive disadvantage.

The fact is he's a 140lber, and thats that. I'd only want to see him move up to fight Cotto or Mayweather. Mayweather isn't any bigger than Hatton, and Cotto isn't much bigger. Other than that he should stay at 140lbs.

Thing is that Collazo isn't a big guy for welter

Collazo: 5'9" with a 72" reach
Mayweather: 5'8" with a 72" reach
Cotto: 5'7" with a 67" reach
Hatton:5'6" with a 65" reach

if he had problems with the reach of Collazo, he's going to have nightmares with floyd. Granted PBF isn't a southpaw, but he is faster and has a tighter defense than Collazo.

[Fenster]

Killersheep, I'm sure this is something you'll appreciate my man

Stan James Odds
Cotto - 1/100

Urkal - 12/1

Wasn't you disgusted with Hatton (1/ and Witter (1/12) being such strong favourites last time?

[killersheep]

Killersheep, I'm sure this is something you'll appreciate my man

Stan James Odds
Cotto - 1/100

Urkal - 12/1

Wasn't you disgusted with Hatton (1/ and Witter (1/12) being such strong favourites last time?

Not disgusted, if you read the post again, I said that they had to destroy their competition to get any respect for taking those fights, the same applies to Cotto, he must destroy Urkal for it to mean anything. If Urkal shows something special against Cotto, even if Cotto pulls out a W, it will knock down my opinion of Cotto.

[Fenster]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

[BoxingGorilla]

All he can do is beat Castillo, then chase the Cotto fight, which I think would be 50/50 Sov

[killersheep]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

[Violent Demise]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

[Preme]

And beating Collazo again would have been a great career move because?

Getting stripped of the title is imaterial, so long as its Castillo next its a smart move, no?

Fighting Collazo again would have been a good career move because:

1) it was a VERY close fight
2) he promised Collazo a rematch
3) it would justify what he was saying about not having enough time to train for the fight
4) it would give him the chance to silence the naysayers that thought Collazo won
5) he would have had leverage (a title) in the money division (Welterweight, more likely of a jumping point to PBF or Cotto than Light welter)
6) it was an oppotunity for him to show the WORLD (not just the UK, that he could dominate a slick boxer)
7) It would have drawn more fans than a fight with Urango.
It would have been a bigger payday than Urango

That being said, at this point I am hoping that he drops the IBF title and goes ahead with the Castillo bout (which is the best move he can make right now IMO)

the reports we had over here was if he stayed had had to fight Urakl or be stripped, no step asides, he fought him and only him or be stripped of his belt.

im still 50/50 on hatton taking the collazo rematch, but his entire camp wanted him to step back down, his trainer billy the preacher preached to any and everyone he could that in no way did he want ricky staying at 147, he wanted him down at 140. Make what you want about that, say billy was scared and thought hatton would get beat at 147, or knew truly hatton could win, but his career was at 140, he was to young to take any 'going out fights' at a higher weight... truth is looking at hatton, he could make 135 easily if he trained right, hes not even a big LWW, and is fucking tiny at WW

im for from hatons biggest fan, hell i routing for castillo if they fight, but i think he made the right career choice by stepping down to 140 where he belongs. he is still young enough to answer any questions, i would assume he and his team obviously think they can beat mayweather so this is an if on their part; IF he beats castillo and mayweather i highly doubt anyone will give a shit about collazo unless he starts doing some spectacular thing...

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

So this is why he backed out of a rematch with Collazo? To fight a paper champion in Urango and than get stripped. Brilliant career move. Over 40 fights, yet only one elite name. An aging one at that.

No doubt Hatton's groupies will consider me stating these true facts as me bad mouthing him.

The only thing i can say to side with you is that Hatton really should of kept his mouth shut and not offerd a Re-match to Collazo.

It was a loose-loose situation for Hatton as
A) it was never his real intention to move to Welter in the 1st place.
B) It was clearly never his intention to stay there... Even though it was a title fight... Which is unfortunate for Collazo.

Like a few of us say, Hatton is a 140 pounder, nothing more, nothing less.


In regards to him fighting paper champs, im assuming that your pissed that all the better fighters seem to be a division above Ricky... Which is fair comment, but really, what can you do?

[Fenster]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.