Valuev - Chagaev April 14th Berlin

[El Kabong]

Landmine, you're an idiot.....there I've said it

[landmine950]

Landmine, you're an idiot.....there I've said it

Yawn...you bore me....
try and say something worthwhile...at least every now and then..
All the yapping you do, the law of averages say that SOMETHING you say should have SOME merit just by fluke chance..ALAS the odds seem pitted against you to confirm the fact that you are worse that just plain stupid..
you are uninteresting and humourless

[El Kabong]

Your love for Valuev would be ok if that waste of space fought anyone who meant anything in the division but he doesn't and he never will and your love for him does nothing but annoy everyone here.

[Tysonbruno]

Landmine was the bodybuilder pictures you

[landmine950]

Your love for Valuev would be ok if that waste of space fought anyone who meant anything in the division but he doesn't and he never will and your love for him does nothing but annoy everyone here.

We'll we will see..
If I'm way off, thats ok I always root for the underdog anyway.
Hey in all honesty (don't tell anyone) I know the guy has some big issues.
as always the story is potential and what COULD be. Excuses are something losers always need to make up.

If I'm right? then what?
Make a statement.....Chagaev/Valuev.......
Ruslan was all this and that not long ago....is he still?
has he suddenly turned to dog sh1t now that he's against Valuev?
For sure if Valuev beats him everyone will say "well that just proves that Chagaev was WAYYY overrated"
speak up? I have! buy some balls on sale somewhere!
People now on the forum are saying probably he could beat Maskaev.
maybe Briggs if Briggs can't get him early.
General opinion seems that Vitali or Wlad take him out.
So he's now what?? 3rd best in the world maybe those people need to recall what they said about him a year or so ago.
His biggest problem? he doest want to be a giant!
He doesn't want to be "the beast from the east" too bad.
he doesn't have that mentality..
he wants to be appreciated for his "skill" and "ability" ....fag.
I know! I have a huge monster kid! he's 12 years old and is 5'9" and 235lbs! hes not fat! he's huge and strong and REALLY fast!
BUT! he doesn't want to hurt anyone or be seen as having an unfair advantage..its weird...the thing every others small kid wants he has and feels like he shouldn't use it somehow....maybe that's part of why I picked Valuev as a project. I dunno..

[El Kabong]

I didn't say anything bad about Chagaev....he's one of the better fighters your giant has fought.

Valuev doesn't use power because he doesn't have any of it.....he just has mass and hell he's got 325 behind his power shots and he still doesn't KO people like a POWER PUNCHER. But for AS BIG as Valuev is he's very coordinated.....I don't rate him as an all-time great or anything close to that thought

My issue with Valuev is that everyone thinks he's a top rated heavyweight and he flat out refuses to fight any big time heavyweights....no Briggs, no Maskaev, no Klitschko's, no Sam Peter, no Calvin Brock......Chagaev is a step in the right direction though.

I'm not going to comment on your son, it is not my place to do that. But it is good you have a kid you are proud of and that's all I will say.

Aggression in sports is learned, it's hard and I think wrong to teach it....I learned killer instinct on my own but I was still a happy go lucky kid I smiled when I did my damage.

[landmine950]

I didn't say anything bad about Chagaev....he's one of the better fighters your giant has fought.

Valuev doesn't use power because he doesn't have any of it.....he just has mass and hell he's got 325 behind his power shots and he still doesn't KO people like a POWER PUNCHER. But for AS BIG as Valuev is he's very coordinated.....I don't rate him as an all-time great or anything close to that thought

My issue with Valuev is that everyone thinks he's a top rated heavyweight and he flat out refuses to fight any big time heavyweights....no Briggs, no Maskaev, no Klitschko's, no Sam Peter, no Calvin Brock......Chagaev is a step in the right direction though.

I'm not going to comment on your son, it is not my place to do that. But it is good you have a kid you are proud of and that's all I will say.

Aggression in sports is learned, it's hard and I think wrong to teach it....I learned killer instinct on my own but I was still a happy go lucky kid I smiled when I did my damage.

Thank you for a good post...you were starting to worry me..

here's where I disagree ..... you said..

"everyone thinks he's a top rated heavyweight"
thats not the case! everyone said he was a joke a fraud a freak a sideshow etc etc.. I didn't and thats why I supported him. I think he's pretty damn good and getting better and COULD become REALLY f3cking good!
Give him time! he'll eventually have to sink or swim!
I just hope that if he fights a Klitschko or other TOP,Top guy that that doesn't then make people who said he was total sh1t say "see I told you!" that will bug me no end!

As a comparison..what has Chagaev done?
Compare HIS record to Valuev's? ppleeaaasseeee!?
It'sliek his size works against him like he's SUPPOSED to destroy everyone and anything less is proof that hes crap.....I don't get it.
PS he openly challenged both Klitschkos and they did not reply!

January 19, 2007 7:40 pm

Nikolai Valuev has said that he wants to break Rocky Marciano's record for an undefeated Heavyweight champion at 49-0. He stated " My goal is to break that record...but if Klitschko will fight me now then I am ready"


and
Boxen.com: The whole boxing world is hoping to see the Valuev - Klitschko fight. Do you want to fight against him?

Valuev: I have said it many times before: If Wladimir wants to get it on, then I am ready at the drop of a hat. But at the moment, all I am thinking about is McCline. Then we will see what the mandatory defense brings. If I manage it, then we can think about Klitschko. That would definitely be a stern test for me and I would be proud to win it.

Boxen.com: Where should such a fight take place?

Valuev: Preferably on neutral territory.

[El Kabong]

Chagaev doesn't have 40+ fights as a pro heavyweight......that enough for you He fought a legitimate contender with average power before his 30th pro fight in John Ruiz.

Ruslan has already tested himself...Valuev still has questions to be answered.


They both have never fought POWER punchers.

[landmine950]

Chagaev tested himself? against who? Ruiz? Sprott?

He's done nothing!
I will be dissapointed if it isn't an easy or clear win for Valuev.
VERY dissapointed.

Ruslan is a small HW with good skills thats all.
If Valuev can't beat him easily.....things don't look good for his chances at dominating the division (even not taking the klitschkos into account)

[El Kabong]

It took Valuev HOW LONG to fight John Ruiz?


You're not making a good case for your boy!

[landmine950]

Everyone want's ruiz now that Valuev "softened " him up!

[El Kabong]

Everyone want's ruiz now that Valuev "softened " him up!

.....I can't argue with you anymore....you refuse to be rational about this

[superheavyrhun]

I don't buy this argument that Valuev isn't tested because he's over 40 pro fights and has over the past 3 or 4 fights started picking up his quality. This doesn't make him s**t, it's just a symptom of the Don King inspired record building where it is more important to keep the '0' in the defeat column rather than to actually fight people to improve boxing skills. FFS look at Malik Scott, he's 27-0 and still fighting 8 round fights, it's just part of the game these days.

The second aspect of this is that nobody took Valuev seriously for the first 15-20 fights, they though he was just some sideshow attraction at the fairground, and he only really started stepping up when people realised that he was undefeated and a proper trainer came in to help him develop.

And as for fighting Briggs/Maskaev/Klitschko, surely a champion is allowed to consolidate the belt before taking on another world champion, it aint great but that's reality pal.