Am I the only one excited for Bernard-Wright?

[Fenster]

Isn't it a catchweight fight at 170? And what's so important about it?

There's no risk, nothing exciting, it's totally predictable!! A couple of superb, OLD defensive-minded boxers fighting in an invented weight class who will comfortably go through the motions over twelve rounds for safe-money.

Hopkins loses: Well he's an ancient fossil, it was one fight to many, he couldn't go on forever.

Winky loses: Well he's fighting MILES out of his natural weight class.

Aren't they part of the same promotional outfit for gods (imaginary) sake?

But hey, good luck to them. If people are interested and want to buy it.. Show me the money!!!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

[Fenster]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

it's a gut full of dirty old cheeseburgers...

[Wayne]

Yes, you are. You know the term barn-burner? This is going to be the opposite of that. Defensive fighters don't make for exciting fights. There will be a lot of posing, a lot of blocked shots and two clean-looking fighters by night's end who both think they've done more than enough for a W while the fans sit and scratch their heads.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

it's a gut full of dirty old cheeseburgers...

And a nob full of smeg patties?

[Fenster]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

it's a gut full of dirty old cheeseburgers...

And a nob full of smeg patties?

You've made me change it.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

it's a gut full of dirty old cheeseburgers...

And a nob full of smeg patties?

You've made me change it.

Ive gone to far :P

[Fenster]

Fenster, is that a picture of your mud-gut or your bell-end

it's a gut full of dirty old cheeseburgers...

And a nob full of smeg patties?

You've made me change it.

Ive gone to far :P

No

I couldn't get over the bit where you said YOUR...it was the thought of people thinking that was ME!

Vanity is a terrible thing.

[Kev]

Isn't it a catchweight fight at 170? And what's so important about it?

There's no risk, nothing exciting, it's totally predictable!! A couple of superb, OLD defensive-minded boxers fighting in an invented weight class who will comfortably go through the motions over twelve rounds for safe-money.

Hopkins loses: Well he's an ancient fossil, it was one fight to many, he couldn't go on forever.

Winky loses: Well he's fighting MILES out of his natural weight class.

Aren't they part of the same promotional outfit for gods (imaginary) sake?

But hey, good luck to them. If people are interested and want to buy it.. Show me the money!!!

Well first off Winky wouldnt take the fight if he didn't think he could win so it being out of his weight class is irrelevent.

You say it isn't important but come on it's two of the greatest middleweight fighters in the world of the past 15 years, maybe the best two, finally getting on in the twighlight of their careers.

I get the feeling that when it comes to B Hop he will be criticised no matter what as people just don't like his style of fighting.

I don't find him on the edge of your seat exciting for sure, but he is an interesting fighter to watch, if only to marvel at how he manages to look so fooking awesome at 43 years of age.

I'm intrigued by this fight, in my opinion both have something to lose. Hopkins has still not ruled out the heavyweight division and is rumoured to want 3 or 4 more fights. It sounds like he wants to make one final push for boxing immortality and beat some of the best fighters of his era. If he loses to Winky that plan goes out of the window, retirement beckons......

For Winky, well it's taken him years and years to finally get the respect he feels he always deserved. Now as one of the top p4p fighters out there he is finally in a position to cash in and get some big paydays, and maybe some big PPV bouts. Defeat to Hopkins WILL set him back. All of a sudden a rematch with Taylor won't look as appetising as Miranda and Pavlick, and he will probably be put off the idea of continuing at a higher weight to face the likes of Kessler and Calzaghe.

So I feel both fighters have something to lose and it is a competative, and intriguing matchup.

[Fenster]

You think Winky wont use the weight as an excuse should he lose? It's a perfect excuse. He can easily move back down to secure lucrative fight's blaming the weight. Oscar-Hopkins? Morales-Raheem?

Winky spent 15 years as a lightmiddleweight. If it was such an acttractive fight why didn't it happen at middle back then?

And Hopkins may of not ruled out the heavies but as soon as he realised no-one gives a shit about him fighting Maskaev, and he wont be making no delusional 15 million quid, thats when the Calzaghes, Roys and Winkys got a mention.

It's just different horses for different courses, I guess. I have no problem with the fight. If people want to fork-out for it cause they think it's intriguing and competitive then fine. I just see it as boringly predictable. A safe payday.

[Kev]

You think Winky wont use the weight as an excuse should he lose? It's a perfect excuse. He can easily move back down to secure lucrative fight's blaming the weight. Oscar-Hopkins? Morales-Raheem?

Winky spent 15 years as a lightmiddleweight. If it was such an acttractive fight why didn't it happen at middle back then?

And Hopkins may of not ruled out the heavies but as soon as he realised no-one gives a S*** about him fighting Maskaev, and he wont be making no delusional 15 million quid, thats when the Calzaghes, Roys and Winkys got a mention.

It's just different horses for different courses, I guess. I have no problem with the fight. If people want to fork-out for it cause they think it's intriguing and competitive then fine. I just see it as boringly predictable. A safe payday.

Winky isn't the type to make excuses, a loss would damage him. As for Hopkins being delusional about making $15 million dollars against Maskaev, Well Jones Jr biggest every payday was against Ruiz where he made over $10 million dollars, double his previous highest purse up to that point, so if Hopkins did get a fight with Maskaev without a doubt it could be a $10 million dollar plus payday for him.

I find it extraordinary the amount of hate Hopkins gets. Nobody would complain about Maskaev baing weak opposition for Sam Peter or Vitali Klitschko, they are big fights, but if Hopkins wants him the longtime middleweight at age 43 is taking another easy fight looking for a big payday

[Fenster]

Hopkins made $10m (his biggest payday by miles) against Oscar...Maskaev aint no Oscar..not by a loonnnggg shot.

It's not hate for Hopkins. He's a great fighter but a boring fighter. And no-one gives a flying funk about whether or not Hopkins can bore an ancient-18st-plodder to death.. If there was ANY interest in the fight he wouldn't now be fighting Winky and the like.

Anyway, It makes a mockery of boxing these guys trying to make fights with shitty heayweights, to win shitty belts, to say they were heavyweight champ.

Why doesn't he challenge Klitschko. He'll get his $10million then alright!!!

[Taeth]

The risk Fenster in this fight is their reputation. Many times Winky challenged Bernard's supremacy of the middlewegiht division, and sure this is at a higher weight, but even if Wright loses this fight will demonstrate whether or not he would be able to hang in there with B-Hop. And while Winky is defensive minded he still puts pressure on his opponent, and he still throws alot of punches, and thats something every finds fun to watch or at least I thought so. Also B-Hop to challenge Wlad Klistchko is rediculous he never said he could beat every heavyweight.

[Fenster]

Right, and when the check clears i'm sure it will help ease the pain of whoever's rep is tarnished.

The weight doesn't matter even though it's 10lbs above the middle limit? Winky spent 15 years at lightmiddle, has had four fights at 160 and is now fighting a man at 170 that won his last fight at 175. Why didn't the fight happen at middleweight?

Hopkins-Wlad is ridiculous, I agree. Just like Hopkins-Maskaev is pointless.

[Kev]

Right, and when the check clears i'm sure it will help ease the pain of whoever's rep is tarnished.

The weight doesn't matter even though it's 10lbs above the middle limit? Winky spent 15 years at lightmiddle, has had four fights at 160 and is now fighting a man at 170 that won his last fight at 175. Why didn't the fight happen at middleweight?

Hopkins-Wlad is ridiculous, I agree. Just like Hopkins-Maskaev is pointless.

Hopkins was at 175 for one fight only after spending 15 years at 160. Plus he's 43 years old. To put that into perspective, he is a year OLDER than Chris Eubank and a few months younger than Nigel Benn.

Hopkin's age surely counts as ample compensation for Winky's weight disadvantage.

B Hop is a living legend, if he was to go on a fight for a heavyweight belt he could well beat Foreman's record and become the oldest ever heavyweight champ as well as the only true full middleweight to win a heavyweight title, as both Jones Jr and Toney were really higher weight fighters.

He did what Ray Robinson could not and won the light heavyweight title. Robinson was also scheduled to fight Floyd Patterson before it fell through after Patterson was knocked out against Liston. Hopkins is as keen a boxing historian as anyone. He knows that if he wins a heavyweight crown it would put him in the top 10 greatest of all time.

Anyone with an appreciation of boxing history can see the merit in such a fight. He's also trying to create a better legacy than his two arch rivals Roy Jones Jr and James Toney.

These fights make sense. Wright vs Hopkins is a battle between the two best American middleweights since Hagler. It's never happened and should do as the best fighters in any era SHOULD fight each other.

I think it will be a better fight than anticipated as Winky will be forced to press the action. Winky's last three fights have all been entertaining and Hopkins looked great last time out against Tarver in a fight that most people thought would bomb as well.

I'm looking forward to this one. It's not Mayweather vs De La Hoya for sure but it will settle a longtime rivalry between two of America's best fighters.