Best handspeed?

[zhubin]

Ali's jab is one of the greatest punches in the history of the sport. The thing about Ali is that his larger than life image sometimes overshadows his incredible physical gifts. The man was a beautiful athlete.

[Majesty]

RJJ a video of his handspeed go to the 6:00 min. mark and you'll see RJJ throw like 20 punches in just seconds.... Thats freakish too....



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and thats an older RJ

But as far as Ali goes, I think Richard Pryor said it best "You only see his punches when he's pulling them back"

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at Heavyweight young Muhammed Ali was so fast, there's never been a heavyweight since with that handspeed. Also think he had one of the quickest jabs going too. Mike Tyson was fast, but that was more with hooks and power punches. Ali's jab was superb.

Lower than heavyweight as far as I'm concerned there's one man who rules, thats Roy Jones Jnr. Absolutely incredible handspeed. The most talented boxer that has ever lived in my humble opinion.

I reckon that Floyd Patterson had the greatest HW handspeed.

[SigmaMu]

Sugar Ray Leonard.

One of the best round thief's of all time.

I never thought of it as stealing rounds. I called securing the round. Sugar Ray was smart.His flurries were awesome. His show boating was a treat

[cockey cockney]

Mosley
M Taylor
Prime Tyson
SRL
SRR
RJJ

All definiately up there. Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

[pacfan]

SRL

...Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk!

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SRL

...Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk!

No offence, but that made me laugh out loud... Until I realized you weren't joking. I don't think any natural middleweight in history would have KOed Hagler.. And to say SRL would have evver had any chance is really really a ridiculous statement imo. If he had ever tried to KO Hagler at any point in his career it only would have lead to him taking more punishment.. He had to fight Marvin the way he did, he couldn't take good shots from him, and he had no ability to hurt Hagler. Have you even seen the fight? I kind of doubt it.

[ICB]

if tommy hearns or john mugabi couldnt ko hagler leonard definetly wouldnt who had only just about over average power

[althetruthhindley]

at Heavyweight young Muhammed Ali was so fast, there's never been a heavyweight since with that handspeed. Also think he had one of the quickest jabs going too. Mike Tyson was fast, but that was more with hooks and power punches. Ali's jab was superb.

Lower than heavyweight as far as I'm concerned there's one man who rules, thats Roy Jones Jnr. Absolutely incredible handspeed. The most talented boxer that has ever lived in my humble opinion.

I reckon that Floyd Patterson had the greatest HW handspeed.

YES YOU ARE SO RIGHT FLOYD WAS CAT LIKE QUICK

[pacfan]

Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk!

No offence, but that made me laugh out loud... Until I realized you weren't joking. I don't think any natural middleweight in history would have KOed Hagler.. And to say SRL would have evver had any chance is really really a ridiculous statement imo. If he had ever tried to KO Hagler at any point in his career it only would have lead to him taking more punishment.. He had to fight Marvin the way he did, he couldn't take good shots from him, and he had no ability to hurt Hagler. Have you seen he fight? I kind of doubt it.

Of course I'm not offended, I welcome 'em, what are we here for? Yes I've seen it just when it happened, of course on the tube. Recently I downloaded 2 versions of the fight from one of the peer-to-peer sharing network and surprisingly it was both Japanese version of the the fight. Guest commentator of the fight was I think former champion Yoshiaki Numata. He said Leonard was clearly ahead and before the last round he said Hagler clearly needed to knock Leonard out to win. How did I know? 'cuz actually, I'm half-Japanese and I was born there and Japanese is my first language. Anyway, going back to the fight, who are we to argue with the ex-champ right, they know more than either me or you.

if tommy hearns or john mugabi couldnt ko hagler leonard definetly wouldnt who had only just about over average power

I won't argue much on something I can't prove, but all I can say is I know a lot more about punching than most people here and can punch better than most boxer, although you won't believe me. Anyway, as I see it, Leonard's punches has all the important ingredients of a perfect punch - stiffness, the snap, speed, and the leverage, that is, his punches are well anchored on his body. It's only that sometimes boxers don't unleash all they've got because their tentativeness. Watch how he unleashes all he's got on the much bigger Lalonde and I hope you'll know what I mean. Of course you might say he's a nobody of a fighter, but that's besides the point. Anyway, CC to you both, just keep arguing, it's no problem with me.

[pacfan]

Sugar Ray Leonard.

One of the best round thief's of all time.

I never thought of it as stealing rounds. I called securing the round. Sugar Ray was smart.His flurries were awesome. His show boating was a treat

That's more like it. He had almost everything, and it's coming from a guy who used to shout on the tube 'cmon, smack the clown on the face, smack him hard!' Believe me, I never liked the guy but always had to reluctantly concede 'he's damn good!'

[pacdog]

1. without a doubt roy jones jr
2. meldrick taylor
3. muhamed ali as a young heavyweight
4. mike tyson BEST COMBINATION OF SPEED AND POWER EVER

[Majesty]

fastest combinations, Ray Leonard and Meldrick Taylor

fastest straight shots, Ali, Mayweather, Judah and Thomas Hearns

fastest hooks, Tyson and Roy Jones Jr

fastest hand speed over all....I'd have to say Roy Jones Jr because of his jab when he used it he had one of the quickest and most accurate jabs when he used it and all around Roy had a better all around hand speed department.

The rest of them were just either good at one thing or the other.

[Majesty]

Ok I can't pass this up

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FASTEST HAM SPEED HAS TO BE MIKEL KESSLER!!! HE FAST HANDS THEN JONES ROY AND HOPKINS PUT TOGETHER!! HE JAB SHOPTH ON THE FACE HARD!!! HOPKIS NA JONES WINKY DODFGE HIM CAUSE HE DESTROY ALL IN PATH!!! KESSLER HAND SPEEDD BLUR NEVER SEE IT COMING TO YOUT FACE AND BREAK BODY BONES!!! KO!! KESSLER KING OF SPEED!!!

[Taeth]

SRL

...Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk!

No offence, but that made me laugh out loud... Until I realized you weren't joking. I don't think any natural middleweight in history would have KOed Hagler.. And to say SRL would have evver had any chance is really really a ridiculous statement imo. If he had ever tried to KO Hagler at any point in his career it only would have lead to him taking more punishment.. He had to fight Marvin the way he did, he couldn't take good shots from him, and he had no ability to hurt Hagler. Have you even seen the fight? I kind of doubt it.

I think Roy Jones Jr. could have. Or Julian Jackson