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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS
Please enlighten us on exactly what Vitaly has done to be considered an all time great......
Fought and aging Lennox Lewis??
No wait he beat on Danny Williams...something that seems to be a trend in HW boxing unless your name is Tyson...
No hold on he beat Corrie Sanders and was beating Chris Byrd until the injury right....
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Disgraceful list...Tyson shouldnt be first and why are 'Tali and Bowe on there too... where is Frazier,Sam Langford, Jack Johnson etc
"The doctor did not need x-rays to convince him there was a serious problem. He knew he was hurting and in extreme pain. So Vitali Klitschko, a proud, educated man with a doctorate in sports science and philosophy, did what he felt was a most intelligent thing. He quit on his stool in a World Boxing Organization title defense against Chris Byrd on April 1, 2000, in Berlin, Germany."Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS
You know this article was written by a clown. He forgot to mention that on weekends vitali flys around saving old ladies from evil doers and parting rivers just for the hell of it because he's vitali klitschko.
on a serious note:
He did the smart thing huh? He went to college (some people dont get that chance to) for all those years just so he could professionally get punched in the face but he did the smart thing right? Quitting in a match he had won three times over because he was hurt. Let me explain something to you. Ali had a broken jaw against norton and didnt quit. People don't watch boxing just so they can see their favorite boxer quit when he gets a boo boo. What that says is Vitali was a great champ while he had no physical obstacles in his way but once he actually got in pain he couldn't take it. Thats what that says about him.
Originally Posted by Punisher136
Well I guess you're running around talking shit about Jameel McCline. I guess you could say he quit when he hurt his leg.When you can't go on you can't go on!
Fighting with a broken jaw happens more than you think but you're so fucking smart I guess I did'nt need to tell you.Take Tommy Morrison everyone said he had a glass jaw but he fought WITH A BROKEN JAW AND WON SO DON'T HAND ME THAT CHICKENSHIT COMPARISON. Like Jameel McCline's knee just cause YOU could'nt see it or feel it don't mean that they can go on. peace out mofo![]()
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im not talking shit on mccline because he hurt his knee against an opponent that was superior to him and the fight was only 3 rounds in. Mccline is overrated trash and that all he's ever been. Its not like mccline hurt his knee late in the fight and he knew he had the fight in the books against an opponent that couldn't hurt him. To my understanding mccline couldn't even stand up. you cant win a match on your back. I can't believe i just said valuev was superior to somebody.....
Vitali messed up his shoulder in round three and he obviously went on for 6 others. There have been other boxers who finished fights with a torn rotator cuff. Everyone trashes jeff lacy. atleast he had the balls to finish a fight injured unlike the uninvincible ukranian warrior that people worship for some unknown reason.
i think were off the subject here. i thought the post was regarding the top 10 heavyweights of all time. i think its a no brainer that klitschko isnt even close
the subject was how terrible the list was and the majority of the conversation came from vitali getting the 10th spot.Originally Posted by LBSCFC
top 10 heavyweights r nothing more than personal opinions
tyson as #1 is acceptable 2 me--he only lost 1 fight during his prime--much like joe louis--when tyson came back from jail--he was just a shadow of the tyson that ruled the hw division-if joe louis went "away" for 5 yrs also he wouldnt have been the same either. tyson at 1 time was fearless, ruthless and brutal and even a scientific fighter
top 10
james toney jk
1 muhammad ali
2 joe louis
3 rocky marciano
4 joe frazier
5 george foreman
6 larry holmes
7 evander holyfield
8 mike tyson-- b4 jail
9 sam langford
10 ezzard charles
a prime tyson ranks high reardless you dont believe me watch some tapes on him. Boxing has been around for over 100 years naturally there are gonna be more than 10 fighters that somebody could claim as "the best".Originally Posted by undefeated
Joe Frazier is too high so is Holyfield and i don't know if Charles should be there but other than that pretty much agree with that.Originally Posted by Punisher136
Larry Holmes number 7 that seems abit generous HA HA HA only joking ICEOriginally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Ali NEVER fought at a blistering pace....sure he had spurts where he flurried but that was just it....flurry, dance, flurry, clinch.....repeatOriginally Posted by Punisher136
Foreman was a great fighter but could have been better technically
Vitali should be close to the top 30 heavyweights seeing how he has lost only 2 times and has KO'd all but one of the guys he has beaten. As a champion he leaves more to be desired but if he wins 50 title defenses he'd be one of the best heavyweights EVER if not THE BEST....that is highly unlikely but if he did it vs anyone it would be a great feat as 25 title defenses is the best so far and 50 would double that.
he quit against chris byrd. i dont care if he goes back in time and beats every other respective top 100 heavy in their prime, HE QUIT AGAINST CHRIS BYRD!!!!Originally Posted by Lyle
Ain't like he quit because byrd was whooping hisass!Originally Posted by Punisher136
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