JCC v Pacman at super feather who wins ?

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

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Pacman has fast hands but not very fast feet, a lot of times he is off balance when he throws, i just dont think he would do that good with JCC who had an exellent D and very underrated counterpuncher, the only fighters that made him look bad was withaker, randall and medrick taylor(almost got killed in da process) all very fast and slick boxers moving in and out all over the ring, thats not pac's style.
i think it would be a classic if they ever fought packed with fireworks.

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

PBF was never a complete fighter @ 130, he was under develop.

If he was, he would've been recognized atleast in top 5 p4p best. Was he choosen by RingMag as FOTY @ 130 because he was winning impressively?... Hell no!

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

PBF was never a complete fighter @ 130, he was under develop.

If he was, he would've been recognized atleast in top 5 p4p best. Was he choosen by RingMag as FOTY @ 130 because he was winning impressively?... Hell no!

Was wondering when you'd get back to me,lol. If he was at 130 STILL, he would be devastating. When Floyd was at 130, where was Pac in his development?Would Pac have beat him back then? I rest my case. Floyd would have beat him then, and If floyd was there now(not going back down, but still weighed 130), Floyd would still be champ. And at 130, Floyd WAS winning impressively. Look at his KO % then, compared to now. He crushed Chico at 130. So, how was he not winning impressively. And, after his win over Chico, I'm pretty sure he did crack the top 5 p4p, because both fighters were in the top ten at the time of there fight. Not sure about the actual rankings, but I think so.

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

PBF was never a complete fighter @ 130, he was under develop.

If he was, he would've been recognized atleast in top 5 p4p best. Was he choosen by RingMag as FOTY @ 130 because he was winning impressively?... Hell no!

Was wondering when you'd get back to me,lol. If he was at 130 STILL, he would be devastating. When Floyd was at 130, where was Pac in his development?Would Pac have beat him back then? I rest my case. Floyd would have beat him then, and If floyd was there now(not going back down, but still weighed 130), Floyd would still be champ. And at 130, Floyd WAS winning impressively. Look at his KO % then, compared to now. He crushed Chico at 130. So, how was he not winning impressively. And, after his win over Chico, I'm pretty sure he did crack the top 5 p4p, because both fighters were in the top ten at the time of there fight. Not sure about the actual rankings, but I think so.

Oh you think so huh?

Pac would KO Chico and PBF @ 130, and I know so.

(I posted this on the other thread):

Pac was 106 and had to move up coz he was getting weaker as he grow old. And now he's in his very comfortable weight which is 130 (the prime Pac).

Same thing with PBF. He started @ 130 but that's not his prime era yet. He had to abandon 130 coz that wasn't his natural weight anymore.

I believe Pac is much stronger 130 than PBF was.


Years ago...

106 Pac = GREEN PAC

130 PBF = GREEN PBF

Now...

130 Pac = PRIME PAC

140 + PBF = PRIME PBF

Therefore...

130 PRIME PAC & 130 GREEN PBF will result as PBF getting KTFO!

What I'm trying to say is Pac is well experienced fighter @ 130 than PBF did.

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

PBF was never a complete fighter @ 130, he was under develop.

If he was, he would've been recognized atleast in top 5 p4p best. Was he choosen by RingMag as FOTY @ 130 because he was winning impressively?... Hell no!

Was wondering when you'd get back to me,lol. If he was at 130 STILL, he would be devastating. When Floyd was at 130, where was Pac in his development?Would Pac have beat him back then? I rest my case. Floyd would have beat him then, and If floyd was there now(not going back down, but still weighed 130), Floyd would still be champ. And at 130, Floyd WAS winning impressively. Look at his KO % then, compared to now. He crushed Chico at 130. So, how was he not winning impressively. And, after his win over Chico, I'm pretty sure he did crack the top 5 p4p, because both fighters were in the top ten at the time of there fight. Not sure about the actual rankings, but I think so.

You think so huh?

Pac would KO Chico and PBF @ 130, and I know so.

(I posted this on the other thread):

Years ago...

106 Pac = GREEN PAC

130 PBF = GREEN PBF

Now...

130 Pac = PRIME PAC

140 + PBF = PRIME PBF

Therefore...

130 PRIME PAC & 130 GREEN PBF will result as PBF getting KTFO!

What I'm trying to say is Pac is way too experienced @ 130 than PBF did.

I don't think you got me. If Floyd was STILL at 130 now, he would STILL be more experienced than Pac. You're trying to compare the present Pac, with the back-then Floyd. I'm not. The back-then Pac, would lose to the back-then Floyd, and the present Pac, would lose to the present Floyd. And Floyd wasn't green, he's just gotten that much better, that's why, Floyd is number 1 p4p.

Green Floyd beats green Pac.........Prime Floyd beats prime Pac, to put it in your terms.

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Just so you know Pacstraightleft, I am a Pac fan too.

[Unknowndonor]

Forget all these "dream" fights, what about Pac beating Cassamyora?

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Just so you know Pacstraightleft, I am a Pac fan too.

It's all good bro.

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Not at all Pacquaio is a big 130 pounder right now he weighs 10-14 pounds over the limit. Pacquaio started proffesional boxing as a young teenager which explains the low weight. He is as big as Chavez was at the weight IMO.

Are you basing that on the PAC EM 3 that PAC is 10-14 lbs over the limit? but that is after the weigh-in(after rehydration), which most fighters do anyway. If you consider PAC a big 130 pounder then what would you call a 5'8" Erik Morales and Edwin Valero, an anorexic welterweight.

yea pac is not a big 130, floyd and pac has gone up in weight about 24 lbs

106+24=130 for pac

130+24=154 for floyd

but pac has done it the hard way, he doesn't know how to the easy way like floyd that would win on decisions by one punch move and defend, pac does it by k.o's and wars. Thats why pac is the TRUE P4P KING. PACMAN BEATS DOWN HIS OPPENENTS, floyd just beats them on points.

jcc vs pac at 130 is an easy call, pac will beat him like how pac beat mab. TKO around 11th or 12th round. jcc at 130 isn't so great, he was better up in weight not in 130. but pac vs jcc at 135 is a different story

I agree.

Remember, Pac was voted RingMag FOTY and p4p best @ 130 because he beats down his opponents in VERY IMPRESSIVE WAY

JCC and PBF are very lucky, Pac wasn't around when they were @ 130.

LOL, If Floyd was still fighting at 130, he beats Pac all day. Pac is lucky Floyd's not there anymore, because Pac wouldn't be champ.

PBF was never a complete fighter @ 130, he was under develop.

If he was, he would've been recognized atleast in top 5 p4p best. Was he choosen by RingMag as FOTY @ 130 because he was winning impressively?... Hell no!

Was wondering when you'd get back to me,lol. If he was at 130 STILL, he would be devastating. When Floyd was at 130, where was Pac in his development?Would Pac have beat him back then? I rest my case. Floyd would have beat him then, and If floyd was there now(not going back down, but still weighed 130), Floyd would still be champ. And at 130, Floyd WAS winning impressively. Look at his KO % then, compared to now. He crushed Chico at 130. So, how was he not winning impressively. And, after his win over Chico, I'm pretty sure he did crack the top 5 p4p, because both fighters were in the top ten at the time of there fight. Not sure about the actual rankings, but I think so.

You think so huh?

Pac would KO Chico and PBF @ 130, and I know so.

(I posted this on the other thread):

Years ago...

106 Pac = GREEN PAC

130 PBF = GREEN PBF

Now...

130 Pac = PRIME PAC

140 + PBF = PRIME PBF

Therefore...

130 PRIME PAC & 130 GREEN PBF will result as PBF getting KTFO!

What I'm trying to say is Pac is way too experienced @ 130 than PBF did.

I don't think you got me. If Floyd was STILL at 130 now, he would STILL be more experienced than Pac. You're trying to compare the present Pac, with the back-then Floyd. I'm not. The back-then Pac, would lose to the back-then Floyd, and the present Pac, would lose to the present Floyd. And Floyd wasn't green, he's just gotten that much better, that's why, Floyd is number 1 p4p.

Green Floyd beats green Pac.........Prime Floyd beats prime Pac, to put it in your terms.

LOL!

PBF was never a greenhorn in his pro-boxing career?

"If Floyd was STILL at 130 now, he would STILL be more experienced than Pac"? True, but PBF would have like 10 losses by now if he still @ 130. Like I said before, PBF had to abandon 130 coz that wasn't his natural weight anymore.
"Green Floyd beats green Pac" huh?

And "Prime Floyd beats prime Pac" would mean PBF will go back down 130? (huh? again) LOL!

Not a chance.

Just to remind you, this thread is about Pac and PBF @ 130.

And again,.. (I posted this on the other thread):

PBF left his punching power at 130, and he can't just go down and be the PBF that he used to be @ 130.

It's not his natural weight anymore.

It's science.

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Forget all these "dream" fights, what about Pac beating Cassamyora?

@ 135 Casa is too strong for Pac.

Casa is rough and dirty fighter.