Hatton a living legend?

**El Gamo** · 06-26-2007 09:14 AM

Ricky would get huge props if he went to 147 and fought there.And if he really wants to cement his legacy,that is what he will do. He only has a few fights left due to his style,why not go out with a bang. It would be nice to see a fighter fight like a warrior to cement his legacy and not as a businessman etc.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-26-2007 11:44 AM

to everyone who keep saying "a legend,hell no!" no one is saying he is..it was a "what if" what if he sayed at 140 and beat everyone from top to bottom his record could be like 70-0 and that would make him a legend....so everyone who's just ready to jump all over the idea with their "hell no, and no way," comments should read first then reply...

**donnydarkoIRL** · 06-26-2007 12:00 PM

I agree with JonesJrMayweather somewhat, but i gotta say, Ricky will never make 70 fights....
His own Bodyclock is against him, preventing him from ever achieving that feat.
So as an alternative he is forced to preform a smaller number of greater feats....
Climbing to 147 is the Key to making Ricky a legend.
I'm behind him all the way!!!

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-26-2007 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I agree with JonesJrMayweather somewhat, but i gotta say, Ricky will never make 70 fights....
His own Bodyclock is against him, preventing him from ever achieving that feat.
So as an alternative he is forced to preform a smaller number of greater feats....
Climbing to 147 is the Key to making Ricky a legend.
I'm behind him all the way!!!

he could make 60 easy..and to be 60 - 0 and one or two solid welterweight wins will make him a legend....so get the 60 first for it will look more impressive than losing @ 147 then going back down....

**Fire** · 06-26-2007 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I agree with JonesJrMayweather somewhat, but i gotta say, Ricky will never make 70 fights....
His own Bodyclock is against him, preventing him from ever achieving that feat.
So as an alternative he is forced to preform a smaller number of greater feats....
Climbing to 147 is the Key to making Ricky a legend.
I'm behind him all the way!!!

he could make 60 easy..and to be 60 - 0 and one or two solid welterweight wins will make him a legend....so get the 60 first for it will look more impressive than losing @ 147 then going back down....

he probaly wont fight 50 if he goes to 147 if he stays at 140 he will probably fight only a handul of times then move up... i dont see him fighting many more than 50

he is going to run out of fights after about 7 to 10

i might be wrong though...

man i wish he was 5'8 or 9 with a natrual body for 147... his fight w/ cotto would be insane if they were the same weight..... but a win over a bigger cotto would do even more for his legacy...

right now if he beat cotto it would be as good as if he was to beat mayweather

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-26-2007 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I agree with JonesJrMayweather somewhat, but i gotta say, Ricky will never make 70 fights....
His own Bodyclock is against him, preventing him from ever achieving that feat.
So as an alternative he is forced to preform a smaller number of greater feats....
Climbing to 147 is the Key to making Ricky a legend.
I'm behind him all the way!!!

he could make 60 easy..and to be 60 - 0 and one or two solid welterweight wins will make him a legend....so get the 60 first for it will look more impressive than losing @ 147 then going back down....

he probaly wont fight 50 if he goes to 147 if he stays at 140 he will probably fight only a handul of times then move up... i dont see him fighting many more than 50

he is going to run out of fights after about 7 to 10

i might be wrong though...

man i wish he was 5'8 or 9 with a natrual body for 147... his fight w/ cotto would be insane if they were the same weight..... but a win over a bigger cotto would do even more for his legacy...

right now if he beat cotto it would be as good as if he was to beat mayweather

not really, for cotto-hatton wouldn't be as big a test for him because he wouldn't have to overcome that much in terms of disadvantages....mayweather is far more dangerous than cotto in terms of exposing or embarrasing him..because he's never seen the likes of mayweather...

**El Gamo** · 06-26-2007 12:54 PM

It's debatable whether Hatton's legacy would be better if he stayed at JNR WW and fought guys like Paulie,Torres etc,unified the titles and stayed undefeated(because everyone would say he never took risks,who did he fights etc) but on the other hand,if he goes to 147 and loses,he loses his undefeated record and everyone would say he beat 2 old fighters etc.

There is no win win situation for Hatton. I'd say go to 147,risk fighting a big guy like Cotto. Even if he lost,as least he could go out with a bang and he would get HUGE props if he put up a great effort. Anyway,like he has said,with his style,he does not have long left so it would be impossible to get to 60-0 etc.

not really, for cotto-hatton wouldn't be as big a test for him because he wouldn't have to overcome that much in terms of disadvantages....ma yweather is far more dangerous than cotto in terms of exposing or embarrasing him..because he's never seen the likes of mayweather...

You're way off JonesJunior,Floyd at 147 and most likely 154,has been superb defensively but offensively,he is not as good as he used to be so the chances of him "embaressing" anyone are very very slim. He would potshot and win a ud,thats not embaressing. Whereas against Cotto,Hatton is more likely to get KTFO. Did Floyd embaress Zab,Baldo,Oscar? No.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-26-2007 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

It's debatable whether Hatton's legacy would be better if he stayed at JNR WW and fought guys like Paulie,Torres etc,unified the titles and stayed undefeated(because everyone would say he never took risks,who did he fights etc) but on the other hand,if he goes to 147 and loses,he loses his undefeated record and everyone would say he beat 2 old fighters etc.

There is no win win situation for Hatton. I'd say go to 147,risk fighting a big guy like Cotto. Even if he lost,as least he could go out with a bang and he would get HUGE props if he put up a great effort. Anyway,like he has said,with his style,he does not have long left so it would be impossible to get to 60-0 etc.

not really, for cotto-hatton wouldn't be as big a test for him because he wouldn't have to overcome that much in terms of disadvantages....ma yweather is far more dangerous than cotto in terms of exposing or embarrasing him..because he's never seen the likes of mayweather...

You're way off JonesJunior,Floyd at 147 and most likely 154,has been superb defensively but offensively,he is not as good as he used to be so the chances of him "embaressing" anyone are very very slim. He would potshot and win a ud,thats not embaressing. Whereas against Cotto,Hatton is more likely to get KTFO. Did Floyd embaress Zab,Baldo,Oscar? No.

if 120-108 isn't embarassing i don't know what is...and oscar is a far better and bigger threat than hatton, not to mention it was PBF first fight at 154...and considering styles hatton would get hit with more than pot shots he'd get hit about 300 times if he makes it to twelve...floyd land over 50% power punches hatton would be a mobile heavy bag...

**El Gamo** · 06-26-2007 01:13 PM

That scoreline was flattering,towards the end,I had Baldo winning a few rounds and wasn't as if Floyd was punishing him was it?

As for Oscar,he is more accomplished than Hatton,bigger but a better pressure fighter? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I said it as soon as the fight was announced,Oscar is no pressure fighter,pressure is all Hatton does.

Floyd would beat Hatton but I doubt he would embaress him. Hatton would have his moments.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-26-2007 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

That scoreline was flattering,towards the end,I had Baldo winning a few rounds and wasn't as if Floyd was punishing him was it?

As for Oscar,he is more accomplished than Hatton,bigger but a better pressure fighter? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I said it as soon as the fight was announced,Oscar is no pressure fighter,pressure is all Hatton does.

Floyd would beat Hatton but I doubt he would embaress him. Hatton would have his moments.

if he beats hatton 120-108 or even 118-110 that's embarassing considering hatton's style which is damn near impossible to escape..and if floyd manages to do so...hatton would not only be battered from being hit on the way in he'd be tired from all his misses....

**donnydarkoIRL** · 06-26-2007 04:05 PM

Anyone seeing the possibility of Hatton-Mayweather being a more attritional version of Jones-Johnson.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 06-27-2007 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Anyone seeing the possibility of Hatton-Mayweather being a more attritional version of Jones-Johnson.

i though that at first..but roy just stood against the ropes and let johnson beat him up...floyd wont stand and let hatton hit him...hatton will be beat to the punch on the way in....

**donnydarkoIRL** · 06-27-2007 10:21 AM

I think Hatton can find a way...It's difficult to no how to beat PBF because he's undefeated and never really been convincingly dominated.
I can see Floyd being a lot more aggresive with hatton than in previous fights and perhaps this will make iot a more open fight and perhaps easier for Hatton to work...

**superheavyrhun** · 06-27-2007 10:35 AM

Personally, I think Hatton has a fair way to go before he becomes a living legend, because he will need to win once or twice more at light-welter, at least one against Paulie, before returning to Welterweight, and really making a go of it. A win against either Cotto or Mayweather Jr would probably put him into the 'All-time great' category, even if he does go on to lose once or twice if he is just taking big fights.