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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
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    Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie.
    Yes, it is normal and acceptable to treat animals cruely, ruin the environment and want to have wars all the time.

    Tell a bear you think it has a right to be treated fairly in nature and watch it eat you beacuse its hungry. Look up to the sky and say you're fighting to make sure it stays blue and then go home to see your house destroyed by a hurricane/tornado/flood/earthquake/lightning induced fire. Tell the people we're fighting that you think its wrong we are fighting them and that they should be living peacefully (and freely plan to destroy us because its their natural born right ) and they'll kill you simply because you live where you live. I'm not saying its ok to beat animals, pollute, or go to war but trying to stop all three of the above gets you 0 appreciation by those you're trying to save. Animals, nature, and people that hate you for no reason don't care what you do, they'll still hate/kill you.

    Thats my view on it.
    I agree that the universe and most animals etc are indifferent to us. But the solution is not necessarily to adopt a 'black and white' view of the world and abrogate any responsibility for the consequences of our actions. It should not matter that animals or the world give us no appreciation.

    Equally, (and I am certainly not a eco-friendly, sandal-wearing liberal myself), anyone who does - or does not - do any of these things cannot be simply categorised by a meanlingless generalisation.
    I'm talking about the people who take it alittle too far (peta dropping animal blood on japanese school children = extreme). Sometimes they do things that don't even make sense (an environmentalist group burning tires to protest the usage of cars and the damage it does to the environment ). And the occasional anti any war people that say "What did they ever do to us?". Everybody should stand for something but sometimes they just take it too far. I don't think there's a person out there who wants to dump battery acid in the ocean for fun, beat animals just for the hell of it, or go to war just for the sake of fighting but messed up stuff is gonna happen.
    hate to tell ya this m8 but there are plenty of sickos out there who want and do beat animals for hell of it



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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    I agree with you now, but that's not what you said - you said "Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie".

    I'm just making the point that I disagree with that statement on it's own, as posted.
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?

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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by X
    I agree with you now, but that's not what you said - you said "Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie".

    I'm just making the point that I disagree with that statement on it's own, as posted.
    As posted its inaccurate to my actual view point so fair enough.

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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by katfight
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie.
    Yes, it is normal and acceptable to treat animals cruely, ruin the environment and want to have wars all the time.

    Tell a bear you think it has a right to be treated fairly in nature and watch it eat you beacuse its hungry. Look up to the sky and say you're fighting to make sure it stays blue and then go home to see your house destroyed by a hurricane/tornado/flood/earthquake/lightning induced fire. Tell the people we're fighting that you think its wrong we are fighting them and that they should be living peacefully (and freely plan to destroy us because its their natural born right ) and they'll kill you simply because you live where you live. I'm not saying its ok to beat animals, pollute, or go to war but trying to stop all three of the above gets you 0 appreciation by those you're trying to save. Animals, nature, and people that hate you for no reason don't care what you do, they'll still hate/kill you.

    Thats my view on it.
    I agree that the universe and most animals etc are indifferent to us. But the solution is not necessarily to adopt a 'black and white' view of the world and abrogate any responsibility for the consequences of our actions. It should not matter that animals or the world give us no appreciation.

    Equally, (and I am certainly not a eco-friendly, sandal-wearing liberal myself), anyone who does - or does not - do any of these things cannot be simply categorised by a meanlingless generalisation.
    I'm talking about the people who take it alittle too far (peta dropping animal blood on japanese school children = extreme). Sometimes they do things that don't even make sense (an environmentalist group burning tires to protest the usage of cars and the damage it does to the environment ). And the occasional anti any war people that say "What did they ever do to us?". Everybody should stand for something but sometimes they just take it too far. I don't think there's a person out there who wants to dump battery acid in the ocean for fun, beat animals just for the hell of it, or go to war just for the sake of fighting but messed up stuff is gonna happen.
    hate to tell ya this m8 but there are plenty of sickos out there who want and do beat animals for hell of it


    I'm saying all three in a single person. There's those that dog fight, those that dump acids in water to save money on disposel costs, and those that go to war with people just because they have nothing better to do (insert ignorant USA bashing comment here) but very rarely do you get all those qualities in a single person.

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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by katfight
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie.
    Yes, it is normal and acceptable to treat animals cruely, ruin the environment and want to have wars all the time.

    Tell a bear you think it has a right to be treated fairly in nature and watch it eat you beacuse its hungry. Look up to the sky and say you're fighting to make sure it stays blue and then go home to see your house destroyed by a hurricane/tornado/flood/earthquake/lightning induced fire. Tell the people we're fighting that you think its wrong we are fighting them and that they should be living peacefully (and freely plan to destroy us because its their natural born right ) and they'll kill you simply because you live where you live. I'm not saying its ok to beat animals, pollute, or go to war but trying to stop all three of the above gets you 0 appreciation by those you're trying to save. Animals, nature, and people that hate you for no reason don't care what you do, they'll still hate/kill you.

    Thats my view on it.
    I agree that the universe and most animals etc are indifferent to us. But the solution is not necessarily to adopt a 'black and white' view of the world and abrogate any responsibility for the consequences of our actions. It should not matter that animals or the world give us no appreciation.

    Equally, (and I am certainly not a eco-friendly, sandal-wearing liberal myself), anyone who does - or does not - do any of these things cannot be simply categorised by a meanlingless generalisation.
    I'm talking about the people who take it alittle too far (peta dropping animal blood on japanese school children = extreme). Sometimes they do things that don't even make sense (an environmentalist group burning tires to protest the usage of cars and the damage it does to the environment ). And the occasional anti any war people that say "What did they ever do to us?". Everybody should stand for something but sometimes they just take it too far. I don't think there's a person out there who wants to dump battery acid in the ocean for fun, beat animals just for the hell of it, or go to war just for the sake of fighting but messed up stuff is gonna happen.
    hate to tell ya this m8 but there are plenty of sickos out there who want and do beat animals for hell of it


    I'm saying all three in a single person. There's those that dog fight, those that dump acids in water to save money on disposel costs, and those that go to war with people just because they have nothing better to do (insert ignorant USA bashing comment here) but very rarely do you get all those qualities in a single person.

    gotcha xx

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    Default Re: Wembley, Live Earth right now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    I agree with you now, but that's not what you said - you said "Anyone who fights for animal rights, environmental reforms, or extreme anti war measures, is a sub-specie of hippie".

    I'm just making the point that I disagree with that statement on it's own, as posted.
    As posted its inaccurate to my actual view point so fair enough.
    Oh, don't worry about it - you should see some of the shit that I post here
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?

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