WLAD THE IMPALER

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Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his a** down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

Lewis proved having a chin with wars vs Vitali + Mercer getting hit flush by Bruno and Mason whenever Wlad get hits flush he always seem to be put down or wobbled and shortly stopped after.

Vitali never hit him on his button either like Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall but the KO was in the makeing lucky for Lewis Vitali got cut.Unlike Lewis Wlad has never been ko'd just tko'd

Uhh Vitali hit Lewis flush with right hands numerous times ?? and im sick of this crap Lewis was not lucky he hit Vitali with uppercut and who was the one holding on for dear life at the end of the round ?? oh yea thats right Vitali and maybe Wlad has never been koed but he was floored 4 times by Sanders completey dominated in Lewis's losses not once was he getting dominated and that was due to Lewis not taking his opponents seriously aswell and he completey destroyed them in rematchs i suggest you watch Lewis getting hit flush by massive puncher like Frank Bruno or Gary Mason and then compare Lewis's chin to Wladimir's.

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his a** down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

Lewis proved having a chin with wars vs Vitali + Mercer getting hit flush by Bruno and Mason whenever Wlad get hits flush he always seem to be put down or wobbled and shortly stopped after.

Vitali never hit him on his button either like Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall but the KO was in the makeing lucky for Lewis Vitali got cut.Unlike Lewis Wlad has never been ko'd just tko'd

Uhh Vitali hit Lewis flush with right hands numerous times ?? and im sick of this crap Lewis was not lucky he hit Vitali with uppercut and who was the one holding on for dear life at the end of the round ?? oh yea thats right Vitali and maybe Wlad has never been koed but he was floored 4 times by Sanders completey dominated in Lewis's losses not once was he getting dominated and that was due to Lewis not taking his opponents seriously aswell and he completey destroyed them in rematchs i suggest you watch Lewis getting hit flush by massive puncher like Frank Bruno or Gary Mason and then compare Lewis's chin to Wladimir's.

To get hit flush on the side of the head is alot different than getting hit flush on the chin.The ones to the chin got Lewis.

[Dorfmeister]

Wlad is a great athlete no doubts about it, all these ex-USSR fighters are... Even Valuev is in very good physical shape for his height and weight, Chagaev, Lyakhovich, Povetkin and Ibragimov are all big, strong, just a lil bit fleshy, it has to do with genetics but that doesn't tell the whole story about the Klitschko brothers... These two are inteligent boxers, Vitaly is more cautious, more tentative with the long jab, leans his head back as he sticks the accurate left lead and tends to discharge his smashing right and leave it there, Wladimir is more aggressive, follows through his heavy left jab with one unorthodox left hook and a faster right counter in those classic one-twos and he has a good footwork to feint and combine with head movement and upper-body work, but there's no body movement at all, he doesn't rotate his body much, looses up a lil bit from those broad shoulders with Manny but that's all ... To make these very good, very big boxers into something menacing such as to call them impalers or white wolves or Ivan Dragos, Steel Hammers, Red Heats, whateva, is clearly some sort of rubbish propaganda that doesn't intimidate genuine and experienced heavyweights, so sorry for the reality check ...

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wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

brock

Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

then rewatch the fight... or is wlad just that good that no one has ever hit him flush accept for peter sanders and brewster

brock had one of the ko's of the year 2006 has good not great power

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Foreman 82 inch reach
Klitschko 81 inch reach
Can we stop now

what yeah that proves everything i said wrong...

Yes,actually it does
Your entire argument on how Wlad would have done against the old timers is his height
The main advantage of height is reach
Well Foremans was longer

actually it dont

his main adavantage is size 243lbs wlad to 216lbs forman

not to mention wlad is a very good boxer(not brawler) and huge power in both hands... it not just size

[Fire]

Wlad is a great athlete no doubts about it, all these ex-USSR fighters are... Even Valuev is in very good physical shape for his height and weight, Chagaev, Lyakhovich, Povetkin and Ibragimov are all big, strong, just a lil bit fleshy, it has to do with genetics but that doesn't tell the whole story about the Klitschko brothers... These two are inteligent boxers, Vitaly is more cautious, more tentative with the long jab, leans his head back as he sticks the accurate left lead and tends to discharge his smashing right and leave it there, Wladimir is more aggressive, follows through his heavy left jab with one unorthodox left hook and a faster right counter in those classic one-twos and he has a good footwork to feint and combine with head movement and upper-body work, but there's no body movement at all, he doesn't rotate his body much, looses up a lil bit from those broad shoulders with Manny but that's all ... To make these very good, very big boxers into something menacing such as to call them impalers or white wolves or Ivan Dragos, Steel Hammers, Red Heats, whateva, is clearly some sort of rubbish propaganda that doesn't intimidate genuine and experienced heavyweights, so sorry for the reality check ...

you think their might be propaganda in the nickname lol your funny

ITS A NICKNAME

[Dorfmeister]

Wlad is a great athlete no doubts about it, all these ex-USSR fighters are... Even Valuev is in very good physical shape for his height and weight, Chagaev, Lyakhovich, Povetkin and Ibragimov are all big, strong, just a lil bit fleshy, it has to do with genetics but that doesn't tell the whole story about the Klitschko brothers... These two are inteligent boxers, Vitaly is more cautious, more tentative with the long jab, leans his head back as he sticks the accurate left lead and tends to discharge his smashing right and leave it there, Wladimir is more aggressive, follows through his heavy left jab with one unorthodox left hook and a faster right counter in those classic one-twos and he has a good footwork to feint and combine with head movement and upper-body work, but there's no body movement at all, he doesn't rotate his body much, looses up a lil bit from those broad shoulders with Manny but that's all ... To make these very good, very big boxers into something menacing such as to call them impalers or white wolves or Ivan Dragos, Steel Hammers, Red Heats, whateva, is clearly some sort of rubbish propaganda that doesn't intimidate genuine and experienced heavyweights, so sorry for the reality check ...

It might just be their nicknames but there are nicknames that adjust like "The Real Deal", "The Body Snatcher", "Terrible Terry Norris", I even give you that "The Steel Hammer" "Dr Iron Fist" but I feel Wlad doesn't want to fight like they do in da hood, prefers to have that Olympic Sword Fighting style

you think their might be propaganda in the nickname lol your funny

ITS A NICKNAME

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wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

brock

Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

then rewatch the fight... or is wlad just that good that no one has ever hit him flush accept for peter sanders and brewster

brock had one of the ko's of the year 2006 has good not great power

Maybe i do haven't seen it in ages but i don't remember any hard flush punches landing on Wlad at all and you just said Brock did land flush punches and now you have just changed it by saying is Wlad that good no one else as hit him except Sanders ect i don't get that unless i read it wrong truth is Wlad is best of very bad bunch of hws infact the worst hw era of all time.

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wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

brock

Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

then rewatch the fight... or is wlad just that good that no one has ever hit him flush accept for peter sanders and brewster

brock had one of the ko's of the year 2006 has good not great power

Maybe i do haven't seen it in ages but i don't remember any hard flush punches landing on Wlad at all and you just said Brock did land flush punches and now you have just changed it by saying is Wlad that good no one else as hit him except Sanders ect i don't get that unless i read it wrong truth is Wlad is best of very bad bunch of hws infact the worst hw era of all time.

... i was sacasticly saying that is wlad that good he was never hit by anyone but 3 guys.... OF COURSE HE HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY ALMOST EVERY GUY HE HAS FACED HE IS A HW....

and the current era is the worst HW's of all time... that staement alone should show how much you know about HW's....

i know its a popular myth but... if you think the top ten to 15 in the HW divsion today went head to head with those of the 1900' 30's 50's 60's 80's and90's you need to study up a little more....

and i am talking about the top 10 - 15 HW's not the top two...

[Fire]

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

brock

Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

then rewatch the fight... or is wlad just that good that no one has ever hit him flush accept for peter sanders and brewster

brock had one of the ko's of the year 2006 has good not great power

Maybe i do haven't seen it in ages but i don't remember any hard flush punches landing on Wlad at all and you just said Brock did land flush punches and now you have just changed it by saying is Wlad that good no one else as hit him except Sanders ect i don't get that unless i read it wrong truth is Wlad is best of very bad bunch of hws infact the worst hw era of all time.

... i was sacasticly saying that is wlad that good he was never hit by anyone but 3 guys.... OF COURSE HE HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY ALMOST EVERY GUY HE HAS FACED HE IS A HW....

and the current era is the worst HW's of all time... that staement alone should show how much you know about HW's....

i know its a popular myth but... if you think the top ten to 15 in the HW divsion today went head to head with those of the 1900' 30's 50's 60's 80's and90's you need to study up a little more....

and i am talking about the top 10 - 15 HW's not the top two...

[ICB]

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

brock

Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

then rewatch the fight... or is wlad just that good that no one has ever hit him flush accept for peter sanders and brewster

brock had one of the ko's of the year 2006 has good not great power

Maybe i do haven't seen it in ages but i don't remember any hard flush punches landing on Wlad at all and you just said Brock did land flush punches and now you have just changed it by saying is Wlad that good no one else as hit him except Sanders ect i don't get that unless i read it wrong truth is Wlad is best of very bad bunch of hws infact the worst hw era of all time.

... i was sacasticly saying that is wlad that good he was never hit by anyone but 3 guys.... OF COURSE HE HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY ALMOST EVERY GUY HE HAS FACED HE IS A HW....

and the current era is the worst HW's of all time... that staement alone should show how much you know about HW's....

i know its a popular myth but... if you think the top ten to 15 in the HW divsion today went head to head with those of the 1900' 30's 50's 60's 80's and90's you need to study up a little more....

and i am talking about the top 10 - 15 HW's not the top two...

So your questioning my knowledge on hws ?? don't even go there you know people who argue weak arguements always question other peoples knowledge i've noticed that since i've been here i have not been rude to you so why do you have to insult me ?? because that is insulting of course hws today would beat hws of early 1900s only because they wouldn't even be hws by today standards .....


Doesn't mean level of competition in early 1900s is worse or 50s or 40s ect and yes Wlads era is weakest hw era of all time and hws in 90s Bowe Lewis Holyfield Ruddock George Foreman would make mince meat of all hws today.

[Taeth]

Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his a** down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

Lewis proved having a chin with wars vs Vitali + Mercer getting hit flush by Bruno and Mason whenever Wlad get hits flush he always seem to be put down or wobbled and shortly stopped after.

Vitali never hit him on his button either like Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall but the KO was in the makeing lucky for Lewis Vitali got cut.Unlike Lewis Wlad has never been ko'd just tko'd

Why do you have Klitschko on your name if you've not seen the biggest fight the brothers have ever been in? Because you must have not seen Vitali fight Lewis or else you wouldn't have said something as stupid as Klit never hit him hard.

[OumaFan]

I thought the right hand Vitali landed in the second was as good a punch as I've ever seen him throw.

Nice straight right, flush on the chin. Wobbled Lewis but he took it pretty well considering.

[Dorfmeister]

I thought the right hand Vitali landed in the second was as good a punch as I've ever seen him throw.

Nice straight right, flush on the chin. Wobbled Lewis but he took it pretty well considering.

Yeah, but against Kirk he like leaves his right hand there and triple smashes the other guy's face, that's awful and GOD DAM awkward

[El Kabong]

Vitali is awkward but he's damned effective, I mean you don't KO all but 1 guy you have beaten without having power and being able to use it well