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Originally Posted by
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i mean if you wanna dis religions and Islam then i dont mind talking about it on a BOXING forum....
if you dont believe in God then ultimately its ur own loss, we're here to guide u. if you do believe in God then most likely u believe in a Religion. and no religion makes more sense than Islam. Islam is for everyone, any colour or wateva. Moses and Jesus are both muslims! many ppl have tried to prove their religion as the truth but it couldnt, Islam could. i remember watching a talk with a muslim scholar and a christian preahcer or wateva. and the christian guy neva stood a chance. this was infront of a huge audience and its on youtube. i cant be bothered, just go on youtube and listen to the awesome talks of zakir naik.....now come on lets get back to boxing. PEACE!
Actually jesus was a jew and its kinda funny you would say that he was a muslim because islam wasn't founded until around 600 A.D. (600 years after jesus was supposedly crucified). And if christianity is such a farce (mind you this is coming from an atheist), why is it that the calender the whole world follows (even muslims) is based off of it?
You must be so quick-minded and smart to have refuted the argument that Jesus was a muslim.
I could have driven a bus through the gaping holes in the knowledge behind that statement. That is if I knew how to drive a bus! CC bro, nice beatdown.
Well just to defend our muslim brother here, Muslim's believe in the same God of Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus as Christians and Jews do. They believe that all these biblical patriach's were men called by God to fufill a specific calling and revere them just as Christians and Jews do.
However a muslim believes that the true message of God was distorted and corrupted when written down and passed down through the generations in what was to become the Old and New Testaments and that both the Jewish Torah and Christian Bible now contain untruth's, innaccuracies and lies.
Therefore God came a final time and retold his message through the prophet Muhammmad. The Quran therefore is God's final word on the subject of man's salvation and corrects the errors and mistruths of the corrupted Bible and Torah.
Therefore from the point of view of a muslim, Jesus and Moses are indeed both muslims because they are true followers of God. Although the word 'muslim' came after their liftetimes they are still part of the true and pure message of God that the Quran restored. By the way, the word 'muslim' is merely Arabic for 'one who submits to God'.
I mean to use another example, many sceptics always scoff that the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs as if they have definitely proved the bible is wrong. What they fail to grasp is that the word 'dinosaur' was invented by Sir Richard Owen in the 1800's and didn't exist as word prior to that time, so obviously the bible and indeed the rest of the ancient world if referring to dinosaurs and experiences of them would have to use a different word. Does such a word exist? Well of course, the word dragon, which basically describes the same creatures as dinosaurs and the bible does use the word dragon in several places.
As you all know I am not a mulim or indeed a man of faith but it still irks me when people try and truimphantly disproves something by stating an obvious solution which is actually completely irrelevent.
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