Are We Supposed To Take Tua Seriously?????

[superheavyrhun]

Theres been an issue with contracts Ive heard which have been cleared. Hes Boxing twice in the next 12 weeks.. Lets see what transpires, to me hes the darkhorse in the Heavyweight pack . Hands up who would fancy the job against a focused Tua Id stay well clear.

I agree with you on waiting to see what transpires.....Problem is nothing ever seems to transpire with him...Just as it looks like he is about to make a move towards the division he just fades off....

The promotion problems have been over for quite some time now

.......My point is he leaves...comes back...leaves...comes back....then fights one or two tune up's so to speak then does nothing...goes no further...does not even attempt to take on a bigger name...not even top 10 just someone like Williamson...someone...anyone...just to get out in the mix.....

Sounds like he's been reading the Audley Harrison book on how to guide your career

We all see how well that has worked out for Audley

Shit man, even Joe Mesi, David Tua and Monte Barrett would be embarrassed in being compared with Audley Harrison.....FFS he's not even a legend in his wife's mind...let alone anywhere else. The only thing Audley ever did was use what talent he had to get a gold medal, then cash in big time.

As for Tua, his comeback would gather pace if he wins another two fights in the next three months, and with the state of the division in the heavyweights, and if his promotional difficulties are behind him, then anything can happen.

[DaxxKahn]

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FFS he's not even a legend in his wife's mind...

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Damn Thats Harsh

[tedsares]

In a word, no.

[brucelee]

PBF is supposed to be retired
Hopkins is supposed to be retired
ODLH is supposed to be retired
Trinidad is supposed to be retired

The word retired in boxing is as applicable as the word humble to Naseem Hamed.

Impressive or not its a win, perhaps had he lost one could deem him a joke or a fraud. But to step into the ring, win and then be deemed a joke, i dont feel thats fair on Tua or any fighter making an effort in our sport.

Okay, i stand corrected. But that was just my honest opinion man. Think i deserve to say my opinion once in a while.

CC for speakin ur mind man!!! Whoa dont think im knockin ur opinion!!! Feel free to bitch back at me anytime u want yano
Thats what makes this forum people standin by there opinions and arguin tooth n nail to be heard cos we all think we're right
Actually BruceLee that CC was earned too cos, i noticed a post by u earlier in relation to fighters health, somewhere, so sorry if ya thought i was knockin ya, i respect ur posts and ur opinions aight
Thank you for the CC daxx.

Thanks for the CC. Here's a cc too.

[Lords Gym]

I think the frustration that the boxing fan feel towards David Tua is justified no question., however people must understand things are not always what they seem. Most people are not aware of Tua’s managerial / legal battles which he has endured over the last few years. . David had to let some contract work expire before moving forward with his career ( a matter of principle if you will !) . Other personal issues which were a by product of all the stress and worry , also had to be worked out


That’s the past! the future is looking bright. . David now has some good people around him.. Of course Roger Bloodworth his trainer . , a great promoter and adviser in Cedric Cushner , accompanied with great fan support. . I think the fight fan will be pleasantly surprised with Tua as he marches forward .

I am a bit taken aback … Would have thought more boxing fans here at Saddo's would be amped about Tua’s march to a HW Championship. Hopefully they soon will be.

[BrooklyniteQueen]

.......My point is he leaves...comes back...leaves...comes back....then fights one or two tune up's so to speak then does nothing...goes no further...does not even attempt to take on a bigger name...not even top 10 just someone like Williamson...someone...anyone...just to get out in the mix.....

Sounds like he's been reading the Audley Harrison book on how to guide your career

yeah but Tua has a better chin and better power so he

[donnydarkoIRL]

Posteed by: Lyle
hitmandonny here's my beef with David Tua....he says he's retired then he comes back but he only half assed comes back fighting BUMS.

The last contender he fought was HASIM RAHMAN and that was YEARS AGO!!!!

He couldn't do better now than he did in the late 90's and early 2000's....he has peaked and if he fought a top level guy he'd lose.

He has not taken his career seriously since the Rahman fight....maybe he could have won a belt or gotten a huge payday but he doesn't try to achieve anything he just tries to get fights and win.


He's a freakshow, no different than Tyson or Holyfield or Mesi.

He should AT LEAST fight a guy like Shannon Briggs

1) Is ur beef with Tua or me? Dunno why ur directing this specifically toward me...
2) As a boxer myself i think it's unfair and disrespectful to refer to any fighter as a "bum" as i feel it is a very derogatory term to be directed at the guys who are brave enough to entertain us this way.
3) It is a possibility that he is trying to regain confidence lost against lewis, Like pitbull trainers who feed their dog a muzzled opponent or a rabbit first to build its belief.
4)Why fight Briggs? I take it ur a Briggs fan...I take it u dont feel Briggs is a top level guy or worthy of praise...then why should tua fight him?!!!
5)Finally, dare you to call Tyson OR Holyfield a freakshow to their faces

[El Kabong]

1) David Tua's career choices.....that's what I am displeased with

2) The guys Tua has fought should consider themselves lucky to be called bums

3) Tua lost to Lennox in 2000....David is now 34 and times almost up. Why the dog fighting references od we really need those now?

4) By fighting Briggs he fights a former title holder who he can destroy easily...it's a simple quick fix way to help Tua reach contender status. A status I am not sure he really wants.

5) Oh Tyson knows it, Holyfield maybe not but he's no Big George....but you never know with the other heavyweight title holders out there.

[josef4334]

Tua would send Rahman packing in 4 rounds if they fought tomorrow. Rahman struggled against Sykes what good did that do for the fans? I'd rather see a fighter workover a bum to get his groove back then play chest bumping games with an average opponent.

didnt tua knock out rahman a long time ago?

[donnydarkoIRL]

1) David Tua's career choices.....that's what I am displeased with

2) The guys Tua has fought should consider themselves lucky to be called bums

3) Tua lost to Lennox in 2000....David is now 34 and times almost up. Why the dog fighting references od we really need those now?

4) By fighting Briggs he fights a former title holder who he can destroy easily...it's a simple quick fix way to help Tua reach contender status. A status I am not sure he really wants.

5) Oh Tyson knows it, Holyfield maybe not but he's no Big George....but you never know with the other heavyweight title holders out there.

1.It's understandable to be displeased with a fighter who showed such great potnetial (particularily at heavy,) but the guy doesn't deserve to be called a joke.
2.Again, and i find myself saying this over and over again. I feel the word bum in boxing is incredibly degrading and unfair, what if someone was calling you a bum for trying damn hard at ur job.
3.At 34 i no he's not a kid anymore but the longevity of heavies is far greater than say welters so i wouldn say hes outta time just yet....As for the dog references thats just what i associate with this situation, which i feel may be born out of desperation in the Tua camp.
4) Briggs may actually well fit the bill of the easy win to boost the confidence of tua, whilst also elevating him in the rankings but it's not exactly the most mouth watering prospect now is it?
5) Gotta lot of respect for Holyfield and a lot of sympathy for Tyson. Got my Fingers crossed for Holyfield Title shot.
6) Feel free to keep debatin wit me Lyle ur damn good!

[El Kabong]

1) He didn't start as a joke but he has become one....and honestly he's tried really hard to do it

2) Well what would you call: Griffis, Montana, Salif, Wheeler, Gutierez and Hawkins

3) Power punchers don't last....especially the short ones. Foreman, Lewis, and Shavers are the only power punchers that had a long career at heavyweight. Mike Tyson was built for speed and his speed was very important to his power and he got old plain and simple. David Tua wasn't exceptionally fast to begin with so age is not going to do him any favors.

4) Briggs is perfect for him, he's big easy to hit, doesn't fight back, and I'd love to see Shannon knocked the funk out

5) I can understand that but Holyfield was never known for his punching power (oddly enough) and he's also not known for his defense either....I just fear for his safety.

6) CC man, you're mighty good to debate with, it's fun to not have to resort to name calling and sarcasm

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yup CC back man,
1) I still cant stand by a statement dubbing a fighter who just won a fight with a double hook Ko, being called a joke, i feel he still has potential, and to answer the thread title yes i take him seriously.
2) I wouldn't call them bums. I may call them 2nd tier fighters or Journey men fighters, but they are still fighters This time Two years ago Carlos Baldomir was in the same situation, remember.
3) You are spot on here, i cant argue with this point...but il try anyway damn it! A boxers power is the last thing to go!
4) But would Briggs take the fight
5) HaHa at last we seem to be agreeing, i was worried for his safety too, but i gotta admire his passion and since his comeback he seems to be well capable of taking care of himself in there.
6) No!!!! Sarcasm is cool and name calling is fun !!!
Jus kiddin man i not gettin that carried away with the debate thing...yet

[Scrap]

The first thing to go with a fighter is his Psyhcodinamics then his fitness limiting the ability to think under stress. David Tua has lost niether, rumour has it hes on top of his game. Find out how many good managers fancy the job of putting there fighter in with him bet its not a long list.

[El Kabong]

...A rematch vs John Ruiz would be good too

[Jody Lane]

I think Tua is just fighting from memory. His best days were 8-9 years ago and he is just hoping for one more title shot against anyone who can get him a payday, probably to pay off his lawyer bills from those lawsuits involving his promoters and managers that sidelined him these last couple of years.