Floyd Mayweather. A look at his recent opponents

[killersheep]

yawn yawn yawn


the fight is still over 3mths away are we really gonna go on bout this 4 all that time?

Why should this be any different from anytime Hatton fights.

[the wiz]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

CC

Great post, I've been saying this about Floyd for a while and it bothers me to no end. All Floyd talks about how he only fights the best but discredits all good possilbe opponents. He was one of the best Super Featherweights of all time but he hasn't established himself at the higher weights, IMO

[Violent Demise]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

I totally disagree you think Hatton has better chance because Mayweather hasn't fought great opposition in his last couple of fights ?? how about doing some research and watching fights like Chavez vs Mayweather Chavez is very similar style to Hatton and Mayweather broke him down and beat hell out of him in the end and case could be made that Hatton struggles with fast handed fighters remember the trouble he had with Collazo ?? your discrediting Floyd here but is Hatton's opposition that much better in his last fights ??


Kostya Tszyu = Just as past it as Oscar.

Jose Luis Castillo = looked terrible in his last fight before Hatton was also past it but it was impressive how Hatton won i give him credit.

Juan Urango = Got a gift decision winning his title and i had never heard of him before.

Luis Collazo = Again i had never heard of this guy before Hatton fight yet alot of people thought he deserved to win Hatton fight and he goes on to get schooled my Mosley.

Carlos Maussa = Hatton was also dropped in this fight i don't have to say about this guy you already know he isn't good yourself.

Ray Oliveira

Michael Stewart = Off the contender who lost in one of the first rounds i believe.



Is this list of opposition really any better than Mayweathers last couple of opposistion ??

Outstanding points. But not what the Hatton groupies like to hear. Hatton has over 40 fights and his biggest wins are against 2 past there prime fighters. The only good fighter he faced in his prime (Collazo) by all rights beat him. Only to watch Hatton punk out on a rematch

[Puya]

Great thread steady. But The Judah that face Mayweather wasn't the same that face Baldomir.

I give mayweather his credit over his win over Judah only that fight I like the way he adjusted and pull the W Judah is no walk in the park for anyone (that is why I'm so impresed with Cotto). Since Corrales, Castillo, Corley and Sosa he wasn't in a real fight IMO maybe we can throw ODLH in there.

[ICB]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

I totally disagree you think Hatton has better chance because Mayweather hasn't fought great opposition in his last couple of fights ?? how about doing some research and watching fights like Chavez vs Mayweather Chavez is very similar style to Hatton and Mayweather broke him down and beat hell out of him in the end and case could be made that Hatton struggles with fast handed fighters remember the trouble he had with Collazo ?? your discrediting Floyd here but is Hatton's opposition that much better in his last fights ??


Kostya Tszyu = Just as past it as Oscar.

Jose Luis Castillo = looked terrible in his last fight before Hatton was also past it but it was impressive how Hatton won i give him credit.

Juan Urango = Got a gift decision winning his title and i had never heard of him before.

Luis Collazo = Again i had never heard of this guy before Hatton fight yet alot of people thought he deserved to win Hatton fight and he goes on to get schooled my Mosley.

Carlos Maussa = Hatton was also dropped in this fight i don't have to say about this guy you already know he isn't good yourself.

Ray Oliveira

Michael Stewart = Off the contender who lost in one of the first rounds i believe.



Is this list of opposition really any better than Mayweathers last couple of opposistion ??

Outstanding points. But not what the Hatton groupies like to hear. Hatton has over 40 fights and his biggest wins are against 2 past there prime fighters. The only good fighter he faced in his prime (Collazo) by all rights beat him. Only to watch Hatton punk out on a rematch

I think Mayweather gets to much criticism on here and people call him boring which is also not true Hattons opposition isn't as good as Mayweather's opposition yet Hatton has had more fights but i don't here this kind of criticism for Hatton and the thing i did not like about Hatton was that he promised Collazo rematch which Collazo deserved yet he went back down in weight to fight easier opponent he would of gained my respect had he took the rematch atleast when Mayweather had highly controversial decision like Hatton he revenged it by beating Castillo convincing and i have also been hearing now in some topics that Mayweather has been ducking Cotto ?? when Cotto was nothing more than a prospect he has come along way but not enough quite yet a win over Mosley will 100 percent get his shot vs Mayweather and if Mayweather doesn't take the fight then i will be the first to say yes ok you was right but lets not jump the gun like some people are doing and wait and see if Cotto actually beats Mosley because i have Mosley as the favorite and i think Mosley has one of the best chances of beating Mayweather and so does Paul Williams for his height and workrate i think people need to stop hating and just appreciate how good of a talent Mayweather yes maybe Mayweather didn't fight some fighters he should have but no one is perfect even the greatest of all time Sugar Ray Robinson didn't fight some fighters he should of fought one name springs to mind Charles Burley the man who koed him twice in sparring and also Ezzard Charles and few others like i said no one is perfect we can sit here all day picking records apart but the fact is Mayweather has fought better opposition than Hatton and Mayweather is going in the right direction towards big fights the Oscar fight and now Hatton fight i can't believe some people are complaining.

[skel1983]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

I totally disagree you think Hatton has better chance because Mayweather hasn't fought great opposition in his last couple of fights ?? how about doing some research and watching fights like Chavez vs Mayweather Chavez is very similar style to Hatton and Mayweather broke him down and beat hell out of him in the end and case could be made that Hatton struggles with fast handed fighters remember the trouble he had with Collazo ?? your discrediting Floyd here but is Hatton's opposition that much better in his last fights ??


Kostya Tszyu = Just as past it as Oscar.

Jose Luis Castillo = looked terrible in his last fight before Hatton was also past it but it was impressive how Hatton won i give him credit.

Juan Urango = Got a gift decision winning his title and i had never heard of him before.

Luis Collazo = Again i had never heard of this guy before Hatton fight yet alot of people thought he deserved to win Hatton fight and he goes on to get schooled my Mosley.

Carlos Maussa = Hatton was also dropped in this fight i don't have to say about this guy you already know he isn't good yourself.

Ray Oliveira

Michael Stewart = Off the contender who lost in one of the first rounds i believe.



Is this list of opposition really any better than Mayweathers last couple of opposistion ??

Outstanding points. But not what the Hatton groupies like to hear. Hatton has over 40 fights and his biggest wins are against 2 past there prime fighters. The only good fighter he faced in his prime (Collazo) by all rights beat him. Only to watch Hatton punk out on a rematch

Well VD, didnt you say Ricky would be KO'd in 6 by Castillo?? What happened there mr expert? He was shot but that wasnt the usual shit coming from your mouth prior to the fight.

Hatton beat the P4P number 3 and the Ring Belt holder at 140, in his first big fight, and he best Castillo in 4 rnds who was the Rings number 1 Contender, what fuckign more can he do? But its easy to say these fighters are shot after the event.

[ACEA]

I think Floyd should get a lot more credit than people give him for the De La Hoya fight. Sure De la hoya was past his best but the guy has only ever lost to world class opposition. Floyd moved up and took a risk againt one of the best fighters of the last decade. Oscar wasn't exactly a shot fighter and was very competative in the fight Mayeather was just too quick and his defense was too good.

[Violent Demise]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

I totally disagree you think Hatton has better chance because Mayweather hasn't fought great opposition in his last couple of fights ?? how about doing some research and watching fights like Chavez vs Mayweather Chavez is very similar style to Hatton and Mayweather broke him down and beat hell out of him in the end and case could be made that Hatton struggles with fast handed fighters remember the trouble he had with Collazo ?? your discrediting Floyd here but is Hatton's opposition that much better in his last fights ??


Kostya Tszyu = Just as past it as Oscar.

Jose Luis Castillo = looked terrible in his last fight before Hatton was also past it but it was impressive how Hatton won i give him credit.

Juan Urango = Got a gift decision winning his title and i had never heard of him before.

Luis Collazo = Again i had never heard of this guy before Hatton fight yet alot of people thought he deserved to win Hatton fight and he goes on to get schooled my Mosley.

Carlos Maussa = Hatton was also dropped in this fight i don't have to say about this guy you already know he isn't good yourself.

Ray Oliveira

Michael Stewart = Off the contender who lost in one of the first rounds i believe.



Is this list of opposition really any better than Mayweathers last couple of opposistion ??

Outstanding points. But not what the Hatton groupies like to hear. Hatton has over 40 fights and his biggest wins are against 2 past there prime fighters. The only good fighter he faced in his prime (Collazo) by all rights beat him. Only to watch Hatton punk out on a rematch

Well VD, didnt you say Ricky would be KO'd in 6 by Castillo?? What happened there mr expert? He was shot but that wasnt the usual shit coming from your mouth prior to the fight.

Hatton beat the P4P number 3 and the Ring Belt holder at 140, in his first big fight, and he best Castillo in 4 rnds who was the Rings number 1 Contender, what fuckign more can he do? But its easy to say these fighters are shot after the event.

I gave Hatton credit for the Castillo fight. I did say Castillo would beat him. But that's cuz I ignored the signs that Castillo was done. I've always taught highly of Castillo. Which is why I didn't want to except the fact that he was washed up. But the fight proved he was. Only a fool would say other wise

[brucelee]

MAYWEATHER knows how to play the game. According to Mayweather he has beaten the best. Maybe at jr lightweight and lightweight but not in the welterweights. Not where the big boys are. None of those guys are deadly power punchers at welterweight. DLH is the most pwerful and we saw that PBF wasn't going to stand and fight. He's convincing people that he's the best by beating fighters like Baldomir. who have 9 loses. He has fought 7 fighters since moving to the welterweights with a combine loss total of 30 losses. thats 4.28 per fighter. WTF is that? SHould I consider him the greatest of all times? good topic STEADY_E!

I agree. Worst of all he has the guts to say that he is the best boxer of all time.Better than Robinson? No way....

[frozensolid_702]

MAYWEATHER knows how to play the game. According to Mayweather he has beaten the best. Maybe at jr lightweight and lightweight but not in the welterweights. Not where the big boys are. None of those guys are deadly power punchers at welterweight. DLH is the most pwerful and we saw that PBF wasn't going to stand and fight. He's convincing people that he's the best by beating fighters like Baldomir. who have 9 loses. He has fought 7 fighters since moving to the welterweights with a combine loss total of 30 losses. thats 4.28 per fighter. WTF is that? SHould I consider him the greatest of all times? good topic STEADY_E!

I agree. Worst of all he has the guts to say that he is the best boxer of all time.Better than Robinson? No way....

Why don't you check the records of Ray Robinson's opponents?

[brucelee]

Have done my research and let me give you back the privilege of refuting me without me posting what I have learned.

[Eli_jr24]

MAYWEATHER knows how to play the game. According to Mayweather he has beaten the best. Maybe at jr lightweight and lightweight but not in the welterweights. Not where the big boys are. None of those guys are deadly power punchers at welterweight. DLH is the most pwerful and we saw that PBF wasn't going to stand and fight. He's convincing people that he's the best by beating fighters like Baldomir. who have 9 loses. He has fought 7 fighters since moving to the welterweights with a combine loss total of 30 losses. thats 4.28 per fighter. WTF is that? SHould I consider him the greatest of all times? good topic STEADY_E!

I agree. Worst of all he has the guts to say that he is the best boxer of all time.Better than Robinson? No way....

Why don't you check the records of Ray Robinson's opponents?

I'm not going to have a discussion on Floyd and Sugar Ray Robinson. We would be comparing a guy who fought nearly 2-3 times a month with a guy who fights 2 maybe 3 times a year and hand picks his opponent. different eras buddy. everybody in the SUGAR RAY ROBINSON era had at least 10+ losses in their career. He never avoided the best such as LaMotta, Turpin and plenty more. He fought them all. Those fighters we are talikng about, DLH is the only guarantee HOF. GATTI for his fights not for his greatness. He was never great. & maybe Judah can be HOF and even that is a question mark. That's all I'm going to say about this.

[brucelee]

Robinson fought with much bravery against very very strong oppositions. It's enough for me to say his better than Mayweather. I don't hate Mayweather but for me to accept that he is better than Robinson, it's a different story.

[sanj16]

Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.

Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above

Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto

Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.

Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.

Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)

Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto

Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.

Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.

I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought

I will make this statement EVERYTIME this topic comes up since it seems to be coming up more frequently.
You can do this to EVERY fighter today and pick apart their record like this. Yet you forget the fact that
PBF is naturally a superfeatherweight 130 pounds. He was fighting at 154 his last fight 4 full weight classes
up. It would be like Hatton facing someone at 160 like say Winky Wright who is actually older than ODLH.
IF you are going to pick apart PBF's recent fights, do the same for whomever you are comparing them too.
In this case you can talk about what world beaters Urango and Collazo are. And then the mandatory Hatton vs.
Tszyu fight which happened over 2 years and 6 million pints ago.

Excellent point!!
Hatton is a great fighter and will give Floyd his biggest test, but no need to put down PBF. Ultimately the only real name on Hatton's record was Kosta, and it could be argued that he was at the tail end of his career. Who has he fought since he lost to Hatton?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Yet you forget the fact that PBF had to starve himself for 2 days to make superfeatherweight.

IMO Floyd was a nautural superfeather. (as i now understand)

PBF had 25 fights at 130 no way was he struggling he has a small frame and he's only 5'8"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.