How would 80's Evandor Holyfield do against the current Cruiserweights

[ICB]

I think people give Evander more credit than he deserves at cruiser. There were a few guys that wobbled him at that weight. I felt Quawi won their first, but it ruined him because he was the older man. Holyfield wasn't some invincible man at cruiserweight, he was still fine tuning his skills. He didn't reach his peak until heavyweight. However, there haven't been very many good cruiserweights especially right now. Evander would beat anyone out there, but I think some of these guys could stun him before getting steam rolled.

Who wobbled Holyfield at Cruiserweight ?? the only time i remember Holyfield being hurt was in 1st Qawi fight but he was never wobbled and you had Qawi winning that fight how ?? you have to remember Holyfield only had 11 pro fights when he fought Qawi in 1st fight and yes he did have some troubles but Qawi was legendary at Cruiserweight so it was great victory for Holyfield for only having 11 pro fights and in the rematch when Holyfield had bit more experience he destroyed Qawi in 4 and no one had ever done that to Qawi before at Cruiserweight so i don't see what you mean with some of your other comments like Holyfield didn't have the chin at Cruiserweight ?? he took Qawi's best shots and come right back at him your ability to take a punch does not change putting on weight unless its in unhealthy way so i don't really understand what you mean when you say Holyfield didn't have the chin at Cruiserweight i also don't understand your comment about Holyfield not having the defense like he had at Heavyweight ?? Holyfield has never had great defense he has always been there to hit.

[Dark Lord Al]

holyfield beats everyone of them in his prime right now. haye would get ruined, i think prime mormeck and enzo mac would give him his toughest tests...


but to be fair enzo and haye havnt hit their primes yet.

You think that Enzo Maccrinelli could test Evander Holyfield ? Enzo has limited boxing ability and a glass JAW .
Just because he has the WBO JOKE tilte and is a warren fighter doesnt mean he is actually world class .

[mayorook]

Is this some kind of a sick joke. Hands down Holyfield would clean this division out.

[LBSCFC]

holyfield beats them all. he was the greatest cruiserweight of all time when he moved up in weight and he still is today

[ono]

well baring a 'phatnom punch' KO loss he would beat them all....some of them on the same night.

[WelshDevilRob]

The current lot of Cruiserweights are probably the best interms of depth in the division.
Holyfield would beat them all apart from David Haye who would knock him out.

I have to give you an SC for that comment.....Because to make that comment it tells me one of two things....Either you know nothing of CW div or Holyfield before his HW years OR...You are a big fan of Haye and are looking past boxing knowledge just to hype your guy up...either way it was a dumb a** comment.....

At CW Holyfield was in his absolute prime and a menace....Haye would not even make it a competitive bout for more then 3 or so rounds

3 rounds come on- let's not get silly. My comment was maybe tongue in cheek but at the sametime I was watching Holyfields very impressive march through the Cruiserweights He beat and I watched at the time; Tillman and Rickey Parkey etc - he beat them impressively but they are hardly the stuff of legends.

David Haye has judgement day against Mormeck coming up. Mormeck is a worthy champion and very good fighter - if Haye wins that which is not certain then I rest my case.

You gave me a sad click for an opinion - fine upto you, my opinion is not yours and in life you have to accept that others will not have the same opinion.

Make no mistake the SC was not for your opinion I respect everyones opinion...It was for suggesting that Haye beat Holyfield!!!!.......

I never give an SC for an honest opinion....Even one I do not agree with....

If you said Holyfield sucked as a cruiserweight I would have just said you are crazy....

It's nothing personal

Evander at his best would hold his own against anyone at Cruiserweight or Heavyweight in any era . My opinion Evander is #1 Cruiser of all time, and one of the Top 5 Heavy's of all time . Evander made everyone at HW fight better. opponents came in correct, they knew they had to be at their very best condition to have a chance, that’s respect. when you can make people around you better, just by being who you are. .. that’s something special. !

CC very well said...Thats what makes legends and P4P greats!!!

Still not sure why you gave me an SC- you made alot of noise without specifically saying why.
Regardless you are wrong.

And I will teach you all a lesson. David Haye beats Holyfield because he is faster and a better technical boxer while also possessing greater power.

Mormeck is just as good if not greater than any opponent Holyfield ever faced.

David Haye after Lennox is the next truly great fighter this planet will witness.

[DaxxKahn]

The current lot of Cruiserweights are probably the best interms of depth in the division.
Holyfield would beat them all apart from David Haye who would knock him out.

I have to give you an SC for that comment.....Because to make that comment it tells me one of two things....Either you know nothing of CW div or Holyfield before his HW years OR...You are a big fan of Haye and are looking past boxing knowledge just to hype your guy up...either way it was a dumb a** comment.....

At CW Holyfield was in his absolute prime and a menace....Haye would not even make it a competitive bout for more then 3 or so rounds

3 rounds come on- let's not get silly. My comment was maybe tongue in cheek but at the sametime I was watching Holyfields very impressive march through the Cruiserweights He beat and I watched at the time; Tillman and Rickey Parkey etc - he beat them impressively but they are hardly the stuff of legends.

David Haye has judgement day against Mormeck coming up. Mormeck is a worthy champion and very good fighter - if Haye wins that which is not certain then I rest my case.

You gave me a sad click for an opinion - fine upto you, my opinion is not yours and in life you have to accept that others will not have the same opinion.

Make no mistake the SC was not for your opinion I respect everyones opinion...It was for suggesting that Haye beat Holyfield!!!!.......

I never give an SC for an honest opinion....Even one I do not agree with....

If you said Holyfield sucked as a cruiserweight I would have just said you are crazy....

It's nothing personal

Evander at his best would hold his own against anyone at Cruiserweight or Heavyweight in any era . My opinion Evander is #1 Cruiser of all time, and one of the Top 5 Heavy's of all time . Evander made everyone at HW fight better. opponents came in correct, they knew they had to be at their very best condition to have a chance, that’s respect. when you can make people around you better, just by being who you are. .. that’s something special. !

CC very well said...Thats what makes legends and P4P greats!!!

Still not sure why you gave me an SC- you made alot of noise without specifically saying why.
Regardless you are wrong.

And I will teach you all a lesson. David Haye beats Holyfield because he is faster and a better technical boxer while also possessing greater power.

Mormeck is just as good if not greater than any opponent Holyfield ever faced.

David Haye after Lennox is the next truly great fighter this planet will witness.

I think I did explain why somewhere but just in case I didn't....It has to do with the comparison of Holyfield and Haye.....Just like you stated in your last post....You are actually trying to say Haye is a better fighter at CW thne Evander was.....That is CRAZY...WTF has Haye accomplished? Seriously what?...If you would have said Mormeck or Bell then at least you could have a sound arguement...you are just using your opinion as a fan not with actual boxing knowledge...Just because you like a guy does not make him greater then an established legend.......Haye has never even been in the ring with a guy of Holyfields caliber....Hell he has never even sparred with a guy like Holyfield.....

If you had stated that you think Haye has the potential to be greater then Evander, that would have been different but you stated he was better then Holly was....the guy has not even held world title gold yet......stating he is faster and a better technical boxier is crap....

His stamina sucks,,and all around boxing skills are not that great sorry to say..and Evander at CW was a pretty hard puncher in his own right.....

Even if I did acknowledge the fact Haye was faster a better boxer and stronger which I don't..All Evander would do if that was the case is bring Haye to war and that would be that....NO F'IN WAY HAYE BEATS HOLYFIELD IN A TOE TO TOE WAR!!!!

I should give you another SC for even mentioning Haye in the same breath as Lennox....Again that shows you speak as a fan not as a guy using boxing knowledge

[DaxxKahn]

The current lot of Cruiserweights are probably the best interms of depth in the division.
Holyfield would beat them all apart from David Haye who would knock him out.

I have to give you an SC for that comment.....Because to make that comment it tells me one of two things....Either you know nothing of CW div or Holyfield before his HW years OR...You are a big fan of Haye and are looking past boxing knowledge just to hype your guy up...either way it was a dumb a** comment.....

At CW Holyfield was in his absolute prime and a menace....Haye would not even make it a competitive bout for more then 3 or so rounds

3 rounds come on- let's not get silly. My comment was maybe tongue in cheek but at the sametime I was watching Holyfields very impressive march through the Cruiserweights He beat and I watched at the time; Tillman and Rickey Parkey etc - he beat them impressively but they are hardly the stuff of legends.

David Haye has judgement day against Mormeck coming up. Mormeck is a worthy champion and very good fighter - if Haye wins that which is not certain then I rest my case.

You gave me a sad click for an opinion - fine upto you, my opinion is not yours and in life you have to accept that others will not have the same opinion.

Make no mistake the SC was not for your opinion I respect everyones opinion...It was for suggesting that Haye beat Holyfield!!!!.......

I never give an SC for an honest opinion....Even one I do not agree with....

If you said Holyfield sucked as a cruiserweight I would have just said you are crazy....

It's nothing personal

Evander at his best would hold his own against anyone at Cruiserweight or Heavyweight in any era . My opinion Evander is #1 Cruiser of all time, and one of the Top 5 Heavy's of all time . Evander made everyone at HW fight better. opponents came in correct, they knew they had to be at their very best condition to have a chance, that’s respect. when you can make people around you better, just by being who you are. .. that’s something special. !

CC very well said...Thats what makes legends and P4P greats!!!

Still not sure why you gave me an SC- you made alot of noise without specifically saying why.
Regardless you are wrong.

And I will teach you all a lesson. David Haye beats Holyfield because he is faster and a better technical boxer while also possessing greater power.

Mormeck is just as good if not greater than any opponent Holyfield ever faced.

David Haye after Lennox is the next truly great fighter this planet will witness.

I think I did explain why somewhere but just in case I didn't....It has to do with the comparison of Holyfield and Haye.....Just like you stated in your last post....You are actually trying to say Haye is a better fighter at CW thne Evander was.....That is CRAZY...WTF has Haye accomplished? Seriously what?...If you would have said Mormeck or Bell then at least you could have a sound arguement...you are just using your opinion as a fan not with actual boxing knowledge...Just because you like a guy does not make him greater then an established legend.......Haye has never even been in the ring with a guy of Holyfields caliber....Hell he has never even sparred with a guy like Holyfield.....

If you had stated that you think Haye has the potential to be greater then Evander, that would have been different but you stated he was better then Holly was....the guy has not even held world title gold yet......stating he is faster and a better technical boxier is crap....

His stamina sucks,,and all around boxing skills are not that great sorry to say..and Evander at CW was a pretty hard puncher in his own right.....

Even if I did acknowledge the fact Haye was faster a better boxer and stronger which I don't..All Evander would do if that was the case is bring Haye to war and that would be that....NO F'IN WAY HAYE BEATS HOLYFIELD IN A TOE TO TOE WAR!!!!

I should give you another SC for even mentioning Haye in the same breath as Lennox....Again that shows you speak as a fan not as a guy using boxing knowledge

[WelshDevilRob]

Make no mistake the SC was not for your opinion I respect everyones opinion...It was for suggesting that Haye beat Holyfield!!!!.......

I never give an SC for an honest opinion....Even one I do not agree with....

If you said Holyfield sucked as a cruiserweight I would have just said you are crazy....

It's nothing personal




CC very well said...Thats what makes legends and P4P greats!!!

Still not sure why you gave me an SC- you made alot of noise without specifically saying why.
Regardless you are wrong.

And I will teach you all a lesson. David Haye beats Holyfield because he is faster and a better technical boxer while also possessing greater power.

Mormeck is just as good if not greater than any opponent Holyfield ever faced.

David Haye after Lennox is the next truly great fighter this planet will witness.

I think I did explain why somewhere but just in case I didn't....It has to do with the comparison of Holyfield and Haye.....Just like you stated in your last post....You are actually trying to say Haye is a better fighter at CW thne Evander was.....That is CRAZY...WTF has Haye accomplished? Seriously what?...If you would have said Mormeck or Bell then at least you could have a sound arguement...you are just using your opinion as a fan not with actual boxing knowledge...Just because you like a guy does not make him greater then an established legend.......Haye has never even been in the ring with a guy of Holyfields caliber....Hell he has never even sparred with a guy like Holyfield.....

If you had stated that you think Haye has the potential to be greater then Evander, that would have been different but you stated he was better then Holly was....the guy has not even held world title gold yet......stating he is faster and a better technical boxier is crap....

His stamina sucks,,and all around boxing skills are not that great sorry to say..and Evander at CW was a pretty hard puncher in his own right.....

Even if I did acknowledge the fact Haye was faster a better boxer and stronger which I don't..All Evander would do if that was the case is bring Haye to war and that would be that....NO F'IN WAY HAYE BEATS HOLYFIELD IN A TOE TO TOE WAR!!!!

I should give you another SC for even mentioning Haye in the same breath as Lennox....Again that shows you speak as a fan not as a guy using boxing knowledge

Haha this was a blast from the past and Haye has got better and defeated two opponets since; Mormeck and Maccarinelli.
Pity Haye's weight problems mean he can't stick around as he might have challenged for Holyfields top spot.

As for comparing Haye to Lennox I still stand by that and that is as Lennox Lewis No.1 fan.

[Syntax Error]

He'd smack them all up.

Evander was at his best in 1986/7 & those were his prime cruiserweight years & I just don't see any of the current crop worrying him too much.

[RozzySean]

Their is only two hypothetical fights at Cruiser where Holyfield isn't an automatic lock to destroy. He kills all of the current crop.

Prime Holyfield vs Prime Roy Jones Jr at 194 - that would have been something. At the current 200 limit, Prime Holyfield vs James Toney 2002-3 (Jirov era) would have been test, but I would still give it to Holyfield.

[Mr140]

How can you compare Haye to Lennox you are cray khan and i question your boxing knowledge now

[Mr140]

Whoops i read that wrong my bad that was not you khan i read the thing wrong sorry

[DaxxKahn]

Whoops i read that wrong my bad that was not you khan i read the thing wrong sorry

No worries...

[VictorCharlie]

there is only 3-4 fighters in the CW history that Evander doesn't beat hands down and neither Haye or any of the current are on that list. Jones/Toney/Spinks would all be close fights.