Am I the only one that doesn't see Cotto beating Mayweather?

[Deanrw]

I wonder how many SC's I will get for this

Cotto is underrated at Welterweight, especially his boxing skills. He has proved he carries the weight very well and improves and gains momentum every fight.


Mayweather is Overrated at Welterweight. He has not proved his stock at this weight at all IMO. I don't care about his past accomplishments, or that he is the worlds most gifted boxer etc... That was in other weight classes. Sure he beat ODLH, but OLDH was suffering from inactivity and being over the hill. For now, I consider Cotto the favorite to win.

I pick Cotto by Decision, simply because his offense will get to Mayweather and put Mayweather in a defensive shell for 12 rounds. Cotto will outwork him plain and simple. Taking the easy route like Floyd has done lately will not prepare him for Cotto.

[frozensolid_702]

Baldomir and Cotto, both slow but Cotto being better .

Yep! Both are slow compared to Mayweather which makes them easy targets and also easy to get away from trouble.

If we want to see Mayweather loose we'll have a better chance on seeing that if he goes to MMA rather than facing any slow guy already mentioned.

Hhhhhmmmm Williams comes to mind at the moment. Not that of a big name yet and needs to be polished a little bit but at least he has the reach, speed, etc. After De La Hoya and Hatton, can't see any one out there really giving him some challenge .

Cotto isn't really slow at all, he has excellent timing. He was consistently beating Sugar Shane to the punch in their recent fight and Shane is one of the quickest fighters in boxing.

To compare Cotto to Carlos Baldomir tells me you really don't know what you are talking about.

Probably best wait for Kimbo Slice's next fight, you'll enjoy that

I agree.

It seems that I've either underestimated Cotto for a long time, or he's improving tons in every fight. I always thought he was kinda slow, but in the Mosley fight he appeared to develop great speed, seemingly overnight. I've also noticed that he gets hit with some lethal punches but never seems to actually get hurt.

Don't get me wrong, I think that he can be outboxed and lose a decision to Mayweather pretty one-sidedly. I'm just saying that he's either the 2nd or 3rd best welterweight out there (at least until Zab gets back to where he was)

As for your Kimbo Slice reference.......

I never watch MMA, but I did catch the Kimbo Slice debut and that looked pretty fixed to me. Slice grazed his head with a punch and the guy gets kncked out??

FIXED!

[GRBOXINGFAN]

Mosely looked like crap in that fight, he quit in the last 5 rounds. I think De la hoya beats Mosely right now. Oscar looked pretty good against Mayweather, good hand speed and tenacity. Mosely looked lost like he didn't want to fight. I think that ODLH for Floyd was a slightly better win for him than the Mosely victory for Cotto, although both are great wins IMO. Mosely just looked bad in that fight, maybe Cotto made him look bad, I don't know, but Mosely just stopped doing what was working for him he was winning the fight after 8 or 9 rounds. Plus Mosely's head movement was the worst I had ever seen it throughout the fight.

I like Cotto and have followed him for almost 20 fights. I just don't see any unique challenges that he presents to Floyd. He is solid in a lot of areas, but I don't see him as being outstanding in many. Good hand speed, fairly accurate puncher, good power, good body puncher, better than average chin and a good heart. On the negative, slow footed, average counter puncher, average defense, little head movement. Add it all up and you have a very good fighter, just not one that presents a huge challenge for Floyd IMO. He comes forward and will walk right into Floyd's lead rights and will get caught on the inside with uppercuts. If he works the body like an animal its his only hope, but then again doesn't every fighter say they are going to do this and somehow Floyd usually outworks his opponents to the body. Those odds would open at 3-1 if that fight were made today, but would probably drop by fight time after all the selling of the fight takes place.

Does Cotto have a chance? Sure he does. Probably about a 1 in 4 (25%)chance once the odds makers have their say. IMO he has about a 1 in 5 (%20) chance so I probably wouldn't bet on him at 3-1. If I could get 7-2 at the start, I'd have to consider dropping a bill on him only to bet the other way when the odds dropped towards fight time.

[SigmaMu]

Mosely looked like crap in that fight, he quit in the last 5 rounds.

Cotto frustrated Mosley. Hit him enough times to swell both sides of that face of his.
You think Mosley was frustrated just because it was the thing to do? No! It was because Cotto presents more of a challenge once he is in the ring. He is like a magician. Have you ever seen a magician do his magic in slow motion? I have, and the magician still get's away with the trick because he is that damn good at what he does. Cotto had Mosley baffled at times, didn't he? Mosley thought he was going to have his way with Cotto and yet Cotto came and faught a totaly different fight. Mosley said he was sparring with Mexican fighters and tried to compare them to Cotto. Miguel is not Mexican and it was stupid of him to think that Mexican's and Puerto Ricans have the same style. Absurd and way off the mark Mosley.

[GRBOXINGFAN]

Magician. Thats funny. You were making a joke right? Cotto is very good I do not doubt that. What is unique about him though? Tell me, what unique challenges he will present to Floyd? What skills does he possess that are so much better than anyone else Floyd has fought?

If he had absolute brutal power that would be something, but he has only good power. If he had faster hands than Floyd that would be a thing although Judah has faster hands than both of them and they both beat Judah. If he could move his feet with Floyd that would be something special, or if he defended like Floyd. What specifically does he do so well that it will win him the fight? Cotto is a very good and well rounded fighter, just nothing special IMO and not someone who will beat Floyd IMO.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Don't get me wrong, Cotto has shown to have what it takes to be a champion but I somehow can't see him winning against Floyd Mayweather Jr. I am surprised to see that on HBO polls and even here in the forum people are dying to see this fight.

I want Mayweather to loose badly really as much as I wanted to see Naseem Hamed but I can't see Cotto doing much really. Predictable, slow (compared to Floyd), etc. I can imagine seeing what happened to Baldomir for a 2nd time but this time with Cotto in the ring.

I don't understand all the hype .

I actually think Floyd would have an easier time beating Cotto than he did with the Fatboy!
I cannot see how Cotto would not be eating PBF's jab all night long and it's a UD for Floyd.

[Puya]

Mosely looked like crap in that fight, he quit in the last 5 rounds. I think De la hoya beats Mosely right now. Oscar looked pretty good against Mayweather, good hand speed and tenacity. Mosely looked lost like he didn't want to fight. I think that ODLH for Floyd was a slightly better win for him than the Mosely victory for Cotto, although both are great wins IMO. Mosely just looked bad in that fight, maybe Cotto made him look bad, I don't know, but Mosely just stopped doing what was working for him he was winning the fight after 8 or 9 rounds. Plus Mosely's head movement was the worst I had ever seen it throughout the fight.

I like Cotto and have followed him for almost 20 fights. I just don't see any unique challenges that he presents to Floyd. He is solid in a lot of areas, but I don't see him as being outstanding in many. Good hand speed, fairly accurate puncher, good power, good body puncher, better than average chin and a good heart. On the negative, slow footed, average counter puncher, average defense, little head movement. Add it all up and you have a very good fighter, just not one that presents a huge challenge for Floyd IMO. He comes forward and will walk right into Floyd's lead rights and will get caught on the inside with uppercuts. If he works the body like an animal its his only hope, but then again doesn't every fighter say they are going to do this and somehow Floyd usually outworks his opponents to the body. Those odds would open at 3-1 if that fight were made today, but would probably drop by fight time after all the selling of the fight takes place.

Does Cotto have a chance? Sure he does. Probably about a 1 in 4 (25%)chance once the odds makers have their say. IMO he has about a 1 in 5 (%20) chance so I probably wouldn't bet on him at 3-1. If I could get 7-2 at the start, I'd have to consider dropping a bill on him only to bet the other way when the odds dropped towards fight time.

Good posting CC fro bringing more info
but the Bold comments tells that Cotto's opponents tend to do that meaning that by round 5 MOsley started to respect Cotto more.

[frozensolid_702]

Magician. Thats funny. You were making a joke right? Cotto is very good I do not doubt that. What is unique about him though? Tell me, what unique challenges he will present to Floyd? What skills does he possess that are so much better than anyone else Floyd has fought?

If he had absolute brutal power that would be something, but he has only good power. If he had faster hands than Floyd that would be a thing although Judah has faster hands than both of them and they both beat Judah. If he could move his feet with Floyd that would be something special, or if he defended like Floyd. What specifically does he do so well that it will win him the fight? Cotto is a very good and well rounded fighter, just nothing special IMO and not someone who will beat Floyd IMO.

I don't see how anybody could say that Cotto's power is anything short of "brutal." In fact, that might be the best word to describe Cotto's power. Did you miss the Malignaggi fight? That was at 140 where Cotto was sort of mediocre. Paulie had to have reconstructive surgery on his face, in case you forgot. Since he's gone to 147, he's an absolute beast. I probably don't need to mention the Quintana and Judah fights because I'm sure that you've seen them.

Speed? He's got that too. I don't know where it came from or how he got it, but it was there in the Mosley fight. His timing might be his greatest strength, or it might be his new found granite chin.

I'm no Cotto fan, but I'll admit that he's not to be overlooked.

Mayweather would win a clean UD, though.

[SigmaMu]

Magician. Thats funny. You were making a joke right? Cotto is very good I do not doubt that. What is unique about him though? Tell me, what unique challenges he will present to Floyd? What skills does he possess that are so much better than anyone else Floyd has fought?

If he had absolute brutal power that would be something, but he has only good power. If he had faster hands than Floyd that would be a thing although Judah has faster hands than both of them and they both beat Judah. If he could move his feet with Floyd that would be something special, or if he defended like Floyd. What specifically does he do so well that it will win him the fight? Cotto is a very good and well rounded fighter, just nothing special IMO and not someone who will beat Floyd IMO.

You are right. Cotto does not posses superman power, I agree. He still has the magic which you fail to see. His opponents fail to see it too, until it is way too late and the trick has been performed on their @ss. It is not what you have seen that leads me to believe Cotto can beat PBF, it is what you have not seen that can beat him. Cotto knows how to land his punches unlike Hatton. Hatton was always throwing his punch high into the air. Cotto knows how to neutralize a fighter who ducks so low and can also neutralize the shoulder roll. I have seen it and Floyd and Roger will be in for a shock when Cotto sends Floyd to the corner frustrated. For the first time, you will not hear Roger tell Floyd "KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING" I think we will hear something more like "Oh Shiet" How did this stupid motha phuka solve the riddle?" The answer? Grooming and preparation.

[winscomeez]

I think PBF wins this one ez,for reasons I stated in other post,the robotic Cotto will be crushed in a land slide victory for PBF!

[SigmaMu]

I think PBF wins this one ez,for reasons I stated in other post,the robotic Cotto will be crushed in a land slide victory for PBF!

Hey Zab! How are you? How is the weather in BK? lol

[Galaxy]

I think the Mayweather/ Cotto fight should happen next! Although I think Cotto is a great fighter I think Floyd wins!!!

[Puya]

I think the Mayweather/ Cotto fight should happen next! Although I think Cotto is a great fighter I think Floyd wins!!!

It sure needs to happen I mean This web page along with others Bixing webpages are asking for this fight pretty much serious all the boxing shows, HBO even youtube crapy boxing shows want this to happen. so this fight is a superfight with $$$ on the line.

It's so weird that since some including PBF said that Cotto is a easy fight then why not make it already since is supposedly like taking candy from a baby and making money of it.

I'm really surprise Floyd haven't ask " WHERE SO I SIGN" ??

[GRBOXINGFAN]

Magician. Thats funny. You were making a joke right? Cotto is very good I do not doubt that. What is unique about him though? Tell me, what unique challenges he will present to Floyd? What skills does he possess that are so much better than anyone else Floyd has fought?

If he had absolute brutal power that would be something, but he has only good power. If he had faster hands than Floyd that would be a thing although Judah has faster hands than both of them and they both beat Judah. If he could move his feet with Floyd that would be something special, or if he defended like Floyd. What specifically does he do so well that it will win him the fight? Cotto is a very good and well rounded fighter, just nothing special IMO and not someone who will beat Floyd IMO.

You are right. Cotto does not posses superman power, I agree. He still has the magic which you fail to see. His opponents fail to see it too, until it is way too late and the trick has been performed on their @ss. It is not what you have seen that leads me to believe Cotto can beat PBF, it is what you have not seen that can beat him. Cotto knows how to land his punches unlike Hatton. Hatton was always throwing his punch high into the air. Cotto knows how to neutralize a fighter who ducks so low and can also neutralize the shoulder roll. I have seen it and Floyd and Roger will be in for a shock when Cotto sends Floyd to the corner frustrated. For the first time, you will not hear Roger tell Floyd "KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING" I think we will hear something more like "Oh Shiet" How did this stupid motha phuka solve the riddle?" The answer? Grooming and preparation.

Comparing Cotto to Hatton insults Cotto. Cotto is a very good fighter in every way. Hatton was a brawler who had limited skills. "It is not what you have seen that leads me to believe Cotto can beat PBF, it is what you have not seen that can beat him." Are you serious? I try to stick to what is shown and in evidence and not imaginary. Cotto will somehow invent some new skills during this fight? We know what Cotto brings to the table and we know what Floyd brings to the table. There is not much unknown here. Floyd has proven to be a much better boxer and Cotto has shown to be a tough and very good boxer himself. Not sure if you've seen many Floyd fights, but he and Roger have had to change strategies and tactics in between rounds numerous times. CHANGING STRATEGY MID FIGHT IS FLOYDS GREATEST STRENGTH!!!! Yeah he has been in control his last few fights, but Floyd has had to adapt and is great at doing so maybe better than anyone.

So besides this IMAGINARY and unseen skill that Cotto will bring to this fight, what REAL and known skills does he bring that Floyd hasn't seen and dealt with before? Please tell me?

[donnydarkoIRL]

You know, I see Cotto beating everyone but Mayweather