Purist's guide to defense.

[RIDEORDIE]

ever thought of getting him to play darts?

Now wait a minute here, You might be on to something

[Purist]

OK I've decided to take solitude here. I'll be writing part 2 soon

[ThomasTabin]

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thus you have provided word for word the amateur way to box, or as i would say, the failure to comprehend the fundamental most point of what it means to be boxer.

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to be a real boxer means to make your opponent throw the punches you want him to throw so that you may walk him into counterpunches! every thinkable aspect of the sport is firmly rooted from this! defense that isnt an extension of this is not truly defense whatsoever. and this is where you amatuer boxers and amateur trainers flunk as you start from a false premise that then leads you to your infamously false ways. you run and you point and you shy away from the punches of your opponent and consequently you violate what the whole sport was based on.

[Andre]

HAhaha I agree, you should start collecting sad clicks like I do,I sence some neck hairs going up over your post.

There are many great trainers who have paved the way and learned from other trainers and continue to build knowledge a new etc, but unfortunately their are more who wont take on any new ideas at all and will anger even at the thought of maybe having to do it .

I can't stand seeing the same style of fighters come out of the same gyms and trainers either ,they do things backwards and steal the natural abiltiy of people away and shape a type of fighter they have in their own mind because they are old dogs who wont learn new tricks.
Thus the general population of the sport stagnates yet another generation and only fighters who can think out of the square themselves and reclaim their own natural abilites, stand out from the crowd and go forwards to the championship pro area.

[Andre]

In defence of purist or starr as she now wishes to be known she did state the word..'Basic' before shareing that ,.but I do see the trap your talking about being able to form under the wrong training.

[AdamGB]

Thats what seems to be forgoten some times though... You have to master the basics first

[Andre]

Yeah exactly bro but you do see way too many pro fighters stuck with the basics but tough enough to be punching the balls off each other earning just a meager living for a small home crowds entertainment.
Its not a fair sport cause there is no real ladder to climb, no divisions to aim for if you get to the top of one etc,its who you know or where your from plus if you stand out frrom the other contenders ,so you can get stuck in a local rut and used up by assholes.

[Purist]

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thus you have provided word for word the amateur way to box, or as i would say, the failure to comprehend the fundamental most point of what it means to be boxer.

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to be a real boxer means to make your opponent throw the punches you want him to throw so that you may walk him into counterpunches! every thinkable aspect of the sport is firmly rooted from this! defense that isnt an extension of this is not truly defense whatsoever. and this is where you amatuer boxers and amateur trainers flunk as you start from a false premise that then leads you to your infamously false ways. you run and you point and you shy away from the punches of your opponent and consequently you violate what the whole sport was based on.

And thus you have ignored that I am stating the basics.

I been working on this and I will let you know when I want to address counter punching but that isn't yet and it's not something that can be rushed into.

I'm not just gonna start talking about the jab and etc and then skip over everything into counter punching.

I haven't even gone over footwork yet to put you in position to throw counters or angles to where you can get good leverage from.

And this is a guide to DEFENSE!!! Stay on the subject If I want to get to counter punching and etc I will. But I'm not just going to throw into it without the basics being covered first

[mastergooch27]

I was at a local gym and I saw a strange style that is either new or retarded...lol
It was more of a technique but this fighter was in a spar and kept an orthodox stance but leaned back to avoid jabs and straights. His elbows go up straight to his temple and he drops his right hand, elbow first and tries to injure the fighters wrist. From the sidelines, it seemed very easy to see coming and simple to counter but, isnt that always the case...

I wonder if anyone else has used this before. I could see myself using it once or twice but never anymore than that in a fight. Opinions?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I used to do that but without dropping the hand. With your hand by your temple just raise your elbow. One trainer told me off for doing that better than getting hit wasn't it?

In terms of blocking, slipping, evading by footwork etc of course it's better to slip than block as you are unable to hit back but you need all those skills. Some times you will be caught off balance, off guard, under pressure & under fire, so you will have to block. Learn all your skills, drill, drill and drill again where you don't need to think.

[Sharla]

I like this post and it's helpful for me because there are a few things I could think about a little more in my own training - maybe just one thing I can suggest be added for those who like me start off with such a poor defence they need to be told the obvious.

When you say move out of the danger zone straight back is not always the best way to do it. Sure it's good at times but if your opponent is hot on your heels or has a reach advantage you'll be a little safer using your angles. If your going straight back still in line with your opponents straights then you might end up moving back with your chin up off balance which opens up your guard more.

Sorry if this was in there and I missed it - just skim reading posts occasionally because I shouldn't procrastinate at uni quite as much as I do

[Olympian904]

There are at least 4 different defenses that I know of that are affective.
1st.Hands in close...some call it the "peek-a-boo"...Just watch Winky Wright
2nd.This defense kind of baits your opponent.You hold you jab hand low which allows a counter hook or you slip under their hook and block a jab with your other hand.-I've seen roy jones do it a couple of times.
3rd.Rolling and Parrying with your shoulder-Watch Floyd Mayweather.
4th.You hold both hands low so that your body is covered and you rely on side to side head movement to dodge head shots-A lot of the old timers did this.