Lee vs. Vera

[Violent Demise]

Worst Stoppage Ever

Calzaghe-Mitchell stoppage was worse. Fuck Lee. Fucking punk was my joker pick for the week

[BoxingGorilla]

I think it was a fine stoppage.

Lee was running on fumes and throwing one arm punch at a time. Vera had the pedal to the metal and letting it roar.

Well... let's just say Vera was still throwing with some kind of meaning.

It was a matter of time and better sooner than later.

[RozzySean]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

[RP33]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

i agree that if they fought again that if Andy Lee even watched a round or two of the tape then he'd know what he did wrong (it was pretty DAMN obvious) and he'd go in and destroy Vera like he should have this time..

Do i think it was an "early stoppage" yes i do, especially considering Andy Lee was throwing back, but do i completely disagree with the refs call? No, I do not..

granted Vera was getting SMACKED with straight left hands all night, but he was never in as bad of shape as andy lee was at the end of the fight.. Vera was landing right hand after right hand and Andy was clearly on weak legs and hanging on to Vera to avoid a knock down.. Vera was never that desperate..

Andy Lee was hanging on for his life and then continued to get hit with hard right hands.. I mean, he really looked like he couldn't defend himself, and that's when the ref is supposed to step in, so i cannot argue with the stoppage..

[CFH]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

I agree. I just saw the fight and I'm not a Lee fan but that stoppage was bullshit. Lee was hurt but he was still firing back. He landed a straigh left right before the ref stopped it. Vera may or may not have finished him, but Lee did not deserve to be stopped at that point. Complete bullshit.

[Spicoli]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

Sorry Rozzy but this is the best thing that can happen to Lee right now.....The best of fighters have lost early on and looked to rebound well.Stoppage can be seen by some as Iffy and It will be noted by fans but Hypotheticals are a dime a dozen with comparisons. Lee was getting opened up on by a grade b-c guy in Vera with shots cleanly ,and Lee's body language was tired & Tattered.He was not ultimatley fazing Vera with shots and had no secondary game plan after cut and vera started backing him up.

I am not writing him off and Lee has the physical gifts to build on.I Liked his occasional sneaky inside shots and range but He was out worked and out punched down the stretch.We'll see Lee again and hopefully he can rebuild but he has some work to do.

[p4pking]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

Even if Lee could have continued with any chance of turning things around(certainly didn't look that way), it's not worth comparing this stoppage to a CHAMPIONSHIP fight. The ref SHOULD generally allow fighters to continue when hurt, and give them a little more benefit of the doubt when it's two elite fighters competiting for a lineal championship. This was a young inexperienced prospects TV debut against an extremely limited fighter. There's no reason that Lee should have had to endure more punishment on the off chance that he may pull a hail mary out of nowhere and turn things around. What is the point, whether the fight was stopped then, a couple rounds later, or even if Lee had managed to shake off the cobwebs and win a decision, he was still exposed, the damage was already done, and he had little to gain in trying to fight on. I think the ref made an excellent call in stopping it there. Not because Lee couldn't have continued, but because he didn't want to, and he was taking a LOT of punishment. If that fight had been let continue Lee could have got very hurt. You don't sound like much of a fan of his if that's what you wanted to see.

[The Fightfan]

Anyone with the upset tonight?
Nope not me Lee in 3

Well to tell ya the truth I've never seen Andy Lee fight.I just went on E-man saying how Andy Lee is the best middleweight I've trained in a long time even when Taylor was with him.Well that's the last time I take someone's advice on a fighter.