Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!

[PanchoVilla]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

If Pac can handle De La Hoya then all this is possible. DREAM BIG!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

Giving the utmost respect to your post...

Manny will never command the money that Oscar commanded/commands. Pac is a name now and deserves it... He also deserves big money fights and is a force in the sport and should be respected but he will NEVER... I REPEAT... NEVER command the money that Oscar has...

PS. I am not a Delahoya fan.(respect he accomplishments but not a fan)

[the wiz]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

[Pacdbest2]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction?

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner
--Cotto He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.

[Wayne]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction?

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner
--Cotto He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called the Changing of the Guard.

And how many losses does Pac have again? Somebody needs to stop laying down for Manny.

[Pacdbest2]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction?

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner
--Cotto He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called the Changing of the Guard.

And how many losses does Pac have again? Somebody needs to stop laying down for Manny.

That's one of the selling point of Pac. He' defeated already but he's beaten also many Legends. One more Pac's selling point is his amazing speed & Power. He's very entertaining.

Cotto's has his Power but he don't have that Amazing speed. He's still entertaining but I doubt he will be more Popular than Pac.

This is about Changing of the Guard as the #1 PPV attraction. Pac is the one Fighting DLH next. Cotto just lost badly & will hurt his Popularity. Pac has loses but that was long long time ago. His other loss to Morales was already avenged twice with an impressive KO. Before Cotto can avenge his loss to Margo(Which I doubt he can), Pac will be way up there reaping his Popularity. No way he can catch up with Pac.

[the wiz]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction?

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner
--Cotto He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.

So the point of this stupid thread is a "changing of the PPV attraction guard?"

Seriously, I like Pac, he's very exciting to watch and a hellova fighter. But a lot of you Pac fans are a bit annoying.

[Pacdbest2]

I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction?

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner
--Cotto He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.

So the point of this stupid thread is a "changing of the PPV attraction guard?"

Seriously, I like Pac, he's very exciting to watch and a hellova fighter. But a lot of you Pac fans are a bit annoying.

How did I annoy you Did you answer the question?? If not Pac.. Who will be the next PPV king & let me know why?

[Pacdbest2]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

Giving the utmost respect to your post...

Manny will never command the money that Oscar commanded/commands. Pac is a name now and deserves it... He also deserves big money fights and is a force in the sport and should be respected but he will NEVER... I REPEAT... NEVER command the money that Oscar has...

PS. I am not a Delahoya fan.(respect he accomplishments but not a fan)

Check your History!!!

When Pac beat Barrera, He becomes more Popular than barrera. When He KOes Morales, He becomes more Popular than Morales. Pac-JMM 2 holds the PPV records at 140 & Below. Isn't it DLH fought at that weight? After PaC BEATS DLH in an entertaining fight(No DLH-PBF sparring here) How popular you think Pac will be after that?? Do the Math

DLH has only 3 -Million Buys PPV..., Bhop, Trinidad & PBF. This is his last fight. Where do you think all those regular DLH buyers go after Pac retires him in an entertaining fight Pac's potential fights after DLH like Hatton & JMM are definitely more entertaing than Bhops. Pac's never ran around the ring like DLH in the Trinidad fight. Pac-PBF is Guaranteed 2Million+ buys. Who don't want to see the 3rd fight between Pac & JMM?

If Pac wins against DLH, That will be a very Big achievement in Boxing History. That will be Amazing. Pac fights are very entertaining, now coupled it with his Amazing achievements, I'm sure his next fights after that will be a Big sell. It takes only a DLH fight to tell the world about Pac. Once all these Big audience saw Pac, they will want to see him again.

[Wacko3205]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

I think Pac vs Oscar is a ridiculous fight to make...& there aint much of a guard change there.

Pac vs Hatton would be more sensible...provided he get's by Paulie.

Fighting Oscar is just money...& truthfully...Oscar could very well be too much for Pacquiao. You have to take into effect (you being a Pac fan, just as I did as a Cotto fan) that the physical is often too much for certain fighters to overcome.

It showed in Cotto against Margarito...& it would most likely show in Pac against Oscar.

I personally like Pac at the lower weights.

Out of all the fights above that you mentioned of Pacquiao...what about Pac's show out against Torrecampo?

The shot heard round the world.

Truthfully out of all of Pac's fights...the two that he shined the most for me were against Barrera & the first two Morales fights...the loss against Morrales was as fun to watch as was the win.

Since then...I have'nt really watched Pac fight that much outside of the Diaz bout.

While I credit Pac for being a good fighter...I can honestly say that I aint a fan...but I would truly love to see him move up & conquer someone @ light welter/junior welter...the winner of Hatton vs Malignaggi would be nice...but if he's going to fight Oscar...I'd rather see him fight someone that aint so spent.

Names that come to mind outside of Hatton would be Urango, Witter, Hopkins, or Malignaggi...but it would have to be someone that wore a strap, commanded respect, or atleast made for a good match up.

[Pacdbest2]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

I think Pac vs Oscar is a ridiculous fight to make...& there aint much of a guard change there.

Pac vs Hatton would be more sensible...provided he get's by Paulie.

Fighting Oscar is just money...& truthfully...Oscar could very well be too much for Pacquiao. You have to take into effect (you being a Pac fan, just as I did as a Cotto fan) that the physical is often too much for certain fighters to overcome.

It showed in Cotto against Margarito...& it would most likely show in Pac against Oscar.

I personally like Pac at the lower weights.

Out of all the fights above that you mentioned of Pacquiao...what about Pac's show out against Torrecampo?

The shot heard round the world.

Truthfully out of all of Pac's fights...the two that he shined the most for me were against Barrera & the first two Morales fights...the loss against Morrales was as fun to watch as was the win.

Since then...I have'nt really watched Pac fight that much outside of the Diaz bout.

While I credit Pac for being a good fighter...I can honestly say that I aint a fan...but I would truly love to see him move up & conquer someone @ light welter/junior welter...the winner of Hatton vs Malignaggi would be nice...but if he's going to fight Oscar...I'd rather see him fight someone that aint so spent.

Names that come to mind outside of Hatton would be Urango, Witter, Hopkins, or Malignaggi...but it would have to be someone that wore a strap, commanded respect, or atleast made for a good match up.

Don't compare Pac to Cotto. Pac is a Proven great fighter. Pac already Moved up from 112-122, to 122-126, to 126-130 & to 130-135. Did you see any deterioation of speed & power as he moved up Did you see any extra fat in his Belly like Duran?? ALL Pac add was skills & more muscle mass to his body. Pac is a once in a Lifetime Kind of fighter. I'm seeing is clearly but I don't get it that you guys don't see what I'm seeing.

[JT Rock]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

I think Pac vs Oscar is a ridiculous fight to make...& there aint much of a guard change there.

Pac vs Hatton would be more sensible...provided he get's by Paulie.

Fighting Oscar is just money...& truthfully...Oscar could very well be too much for Pacquiao. You have to take into effect (you being a Pac fan, just as I did as a Cotto fan) that the physical is often too much for certain fighters to overcome.

It showed in Cotto against Margarito...& it would most likely show in Pac against Oscar.

I personally like Pac at the lower weights.

Out of all the fights above that you mentioned of Pacquiao...what about Pac's show out against Torrecampo?

The shot heard round the world.

Truthfully out of all of Pac's fights...the two that he shined the most for me were against Barrera & the first two Morales fights...the loss against Morrales was as fun to watch as was the win.

Since then...I have'nt really watched Pac fight that much outside of the Diaz bout.

While I credit Pac for being a good fighter...I can honestly say that I aint a fan...but I would truly love to see him move up & conquer someone @ light welter/junior welter...the winner of Hatton vs Malignaggi would be nice...but if he's going to fight Oscar...I'd rather see him fight someone that aint so spent.

Names that come to mind outside of Hatton would be Urango, Witter, Hopkins, or Malignaggi...but it would have to be someone that wore a strap, commanded respect, or atleast made for a good match up.

Don't compare Pac to Cotto. Pac is a Proven great fighter. Pac already Moved up from 112-122, to 122-126, to 126-130 & to 130-135. Did you see any deterioation of speed & power as he moved up Did you see any extra fat in his Belly like Duran?? ALL Pac add was skills & more muscle mass to his body. Pac is a once in a Lifetime Kind of fighter. I'm seeing is clearly but I don't get it that you guys don't see what I'm seeing.

What does Duran having a small belly have to do with anything its a boxing match not a bodybuilding competition..

Also we are boxing fans and you seem to be a PAC fan only so we tend to have a broader view of whats going on

[Pacdbest2]

I think Pac vs Oscar is a ridiculous fight to make...& there aint much of a guard change there.

Pac vs Hatton would be more sensible...provided he get's by Paulie.

Fighting Oscar is just money...& truthfully...Oscar could very well be too much for Pacquiao. You have to take into effect (you being a Pac fan, just as I did as a Cotto fan) that the physical is often too much for certain fighters to overcome.

It showed in Cotto against Margarito...& it would most likely show in Pac against Oscar.

I personally like Pac at the lower weights.

Out of all the fights above that you mentioned of Pacquiao...what about Pac's show out against Torrecampo?

The shot heard round the world.

Truthfully out of all of Pac's fights...the two that he shined the most for me were against Barrera & the first two Morales fights...the loss against Morrales was as fun to watch as was the win.

Since then...I have'nt really watched Pac fight that much outside of the Diaz bout.

While I credit Pac for being a good fighter...I can honestly say that I aint a fan...but I would truly love to see him move up & conquer someone @ light welter/junior welter...the winner of Hatton vs Malignaggi would be nice...but if he's going to fight Oscar...I'd rather see him fight someone that aint so spent.

Names that come to mind outside of Hatton would be Urango, Witter, Hopkins, or Malignaggi...but it would have to be someone that wore a strap, commanded respect, or atleast made for a good match up.

Don't compare Pac to Cotto. Pac is a Proven great fighter. Pac already Moved up from 112-122, to 122-126, to 126-130 & to 130-135. Did you see any deterioation of speed & power as he moved up Did you see any extra fat in his Belly like Duran?? ALL Pac add was skills & more muscle mass to his body. Pac is a once in a Lifetime Kind of fighter. I'm seeing is clearly but I don't get it that you guys don't see what I'm seeing.

What does Duran having a small belly have to do with anything its a boxing match not a bodybuilding competition..

Also we are boxing fans and you seem to be a PAC fan only so we tend to have a broader view of whats going on

It has to do with Pac as a more athletic kind of fighter than Duran & Cotto. Cotto's has the fatty genes. If he's not boxing he's probably going to be fat just like some guys in his camp. Duran is the same, he baloons whenever his not training. Pac is moving up in weight because of the Challenge & the money. PBF is small too but he outpointed DLH because of speed. Pac, PBF, SRL, SRR & Armstrong are the Kind of athletic Great Fighters. These guys win fights against Bigger fighters because of their athletic gifts.

I'm a Pac fan coz I'm entertained. And he makes us Pinoy Proud. I like Pavlik, Cotto, Kirkland, Concepcion, Donaire, Vic Ortiz, and many more as long as they are exciting. I bought PPV like Cotto-Margo & PBF vs Judah,Hatton & DLH. Even the valero fight in Mexico I bought that PPV. BUt it started all with pac. He's still my standard bearer. I'm into boxing now coz I want to see where pac stands now.

[Wacko3205]

Also...I thought everyone wanted to see Pac face that other KO artist...errrrrm...I forget his name...Valero!!!

The guy that everyone said was going to run the division after Pac left out for greener grasses.

Not a fan of him either...but I'd be curious to see what the clash brought.

What happened to all that noise from both camps? I know he can't or was'nt supposed to fight stateside...but he's got a pretty fit record & I heard/read that offers were made, struck, & declined.

[Violent Demise]

When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts

So this is the type of stupid shiit they talk about at ESB, huh? Pac will never be on Oscar's money making level. Especially after Oscar sends him out on a stretcher. If Oscar-Pac gets made, Pac goes like Joey Gamache did against Arturo Gatti