tyson against the heavyweight legends

[Hoggmeister]

let me know how you think a prime mike tyson wouldve fared against the likes of louis, marciano, ali etc.

[piye]

Tyson was a beast and is one of the heavyweight legends himself. I think he fares well against the majority of fighters head to head but think it's something that could go either way on any given night with great fighters of this caliber.

[kingfrnk]

mike tyson would beat all except ali. marciano was to slow to keep up with tyson same goes for louis, frazier would get kod in the first round foreman wouldnt land anything cleanly so thats it mike would beat all except ali.

[Markusdarkus]

Foreman style wise is a mare for Tyson and he would KO Mike. Ali and Holmes would out point him.

Prime for prime that is.

[Beanflicker]

I think Prime Mike would do well against a lot of HW legends. I think he has too much firepower for the likes of guys like Marciano and Louis, who really weren't HWs to begin with. I think he would probably knock Frazier and Ken Norton out. I'd give him a good shot against Foreman.

But that being said, I think the durable, fast jabbing and quick moving guys like Ali and Holmes would beat him.

[Trainer Monkey]

Marciano and Louis would most likely be cruisers in Tysons era,Ali would have embarrassed him,Foreman and Holmes would have kept him away until they got the big shot,Frazier would have been interesting,because it would be mirror images going against each other

[ross]

This is an interview with Holmes right after Tyson smashed him through the canvas, he says Mike was very hard to hit, was very sharp and he couldnt live with him on the inside, Mike would have done the same to a prime Holmes, it might have taken a couple of rounds more but it would end with Holmes on his back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMMT...eature=related

Mike was something special, Ok Holmes wasnt in his prime but he was even further removed from that when he pushed Holyfield alll the way and beat Mercer who should have got the decision against Lewis.

No one else would ever have done that to Holmes at any point in his career

[Thread Stealer]

I like Tyson to beat some of the smaller greats like Marciano, Dempsey, Frazier, maybe Louis. Louis's chin wasn't the best, although it should be noted that they used smaller gloves then.

Foreman would probably beat Tyson, similar in ways to Frazier, but Tyson was a much faster starter than Frazier, with a better variety of punches. So Tyson would be a live underdog, while I can't envision any Frazier beating Foreman. The uppercut is key against shorter swarmers though, and it was a punch you could get Tyson with. That was the key punch against Frazier, and I think it'd be the key punch against Tyson.

I'd make Holmes the slight favorite against Tyson. An interesting thing was mentioned on ESPN Classic Ringside (I think), on Tyson. Teddy Atlas was saying that Cus would tell Tyson what he would do if he were to fight Holmes. You could time him with a right hand. Snipes and Shavers badly hurt him with hit (some refs would've stopped those bouts), Weaver hurt him with it, Spoon did as well. When Tyson fought an aging Holmes, it was this punch that was the beginning of the end for Holmes. Obviously a younger Holmes is tougher to time than a 1988 Holmes, but other guys did it and hurt him and they weren't the finishers that Tyson was.

I can see both sides about Holyfield. Some believe that Holyfield would always own Tyson, had the right style for Tyson, was too much mentally and physically, etc... Maybe. Then again, a younger Tyson attacked the body more. I've seen Holyfield doubled over or hurt quite a few times from good body shots. Also, the older Holyfield who beat an Tyson was smarter and stronger than the younger Holyfield. Holyfield said he learned to control his aggression, especially after getting stopped by Bowe. He clinched Tyson a lot, and was physically stronger. Holyfield was supposedly shot, but in actuality he had adapted well as he got older. Would a younger Holyfield clinch Tyson and outwrestle him, or get drawn into warfare as he so often did?

I think Ali outboxes Tyson and wins a UD, maybe stops him late. Tyson's dangerous in the early going, maybe he can take advantage of Ali's flaws and suspectibility to a left hook and stop him, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[RozzySean]

Marciano and Louis would most likely be cruisers in Tysons era,Ali would have embarrassed him,Foreman and Holmes would have kept him away until they got the big shot,Frazier would have been interesting,because it would be mirror images going against each other

As much as I love Frazier, Tyson win with one because he's bigger and faster, and when two fighters with similar styles meet, if one guy is bigger and faster, he will usually win. You beat Tyson with a jab and KO punch or an iron chin and a KO punch.

I agree that Foreman would have handled him like he did Frazier, but probably not as easily. Ali and Holmes prime Holmes would have boxed circles around him. I would favor Holmes, but he would have had a punchers chance against him. Yes, Ali would really make him look silly. Watch the Quick Tillis fight and imagine what Ali's movement and power would have done to Tyson.

Tyson would be too big and strong for Rocky, I think. I would Joe Louis a 50/50 shot. Louis was smaller, but his jab, skill, and punching power would give him a shot. I also think Lennox Lewis at his best would have beat Tyson at his best.

[Hoggmeister]

i think that tyson wouldve been too fast and powerful for all but ali. sonny liston wouldve been a great fight though, two ferocious tough guys going at it. again i think tyson would be too fast.

[Zelley]

mike tyson would beat all except ali. marciano was to slow to keep up with tyson same goes for louis, frazier would get kod in the first round foreman wouldnt land anything cleanly so thats it mike would beat all except ali.

That would make Ali and Tyson the top two of all time.
There is a bridge in Alaska for sale!!!

Any top champion had the stuff to defeat Ali or Tyson.

As Marciano was undefeared, difficult to say Tyson would win.
Not sure if Tyson could take the punches, but Marciano proved
he could take the heavy shots.

[kingfrnk]

mike tyson would beat all except ali. marciano was to slow to keep up with tyson same goes for louis, frazier would get kod in the first round foreman wouldnt land anything cleanly so thats it mike would beat all except ali.

That would make Ali and Tyson the top two of all time.
There is a bridge in Alaska for sale!!!

Any top champion had the stuff to defeat Ali or Tyson.

As Marciano was undefeared, difficult to say Tyson would win.
Not sure if Tyson could take the punches, but Marciano proved
he could take the heavy shots.

i never said he was one of the best i just said he could beat them. each of them are great for different reasons but if you put marciano, frazier, or even a young forman i think mike would take em

[ross]

These dream matches are always unfair on Mike, each champ of each generation had something special to put them above everyone else.

Mike may well have come bottom out of a round robin tournament and he may well have beaten everyone.

I know it sounds daft when we as his fans say his prime was with Kevin Rooney because he ws still in his physical prime whien he came out of prison but even the newest of boxing fans would notice a difference in the way Mike fought after Rooney, he wasnt hard to hit, he didnt jab or put together dazzling combinations and for him to have had success as a 5,10" fighter throwing one shot at a time is still pretty good.

Hypotheticly if Cus had never died (Cus had Mikes respect and love, Rooney did but not to that extent) Mike would have stayed on the straight and narrow and as I mentioned about all Mikes physical gifts and promise, if he had taken his career serious and carried on as he was, he wouldnt have been unbeatable but we wouldnt have to hear how he was just a bully who didnt like adversity.

The adversity came when he didnt give a shit, he fought good fighters that couldnt put a dent in him because he was that good, not because they were bad, id take the eighties champs over todays, they were far more skilled, Tony Tubbs was still having success up to a couple of years ago, Holmes also, Whitherspoon would catch Klitschko with that overhand right for sure and if Jones and Toney could have success at heavy Spinks would have also.

Id give Bruno a shot at a title as well

[porkypara]

p4p all the HW legends beat Tyson.He would have a punchers chance in the early rounds against some of them but that is about it.


Tyson was never able to prove himself in the face of advercity.


When the going got tough Tyson lost. FACT

[Tysonbruno]

I think Tyson would beat most of them if not all of them he was pretty Awesome at his best.